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Comments on: Inside 'Unite': Opera's browser-server

Opera Software introduces a technical preview of Opera Unite, a component of its Opera 10 browser that can turn your computer into a Web server for personal Web hosting and file-sharing.

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by tudza June 16, 2009 11:40 AM PDT

A little more information here, like why is this special? Windows comes with a web server, or used to, with the dream that it would revolutionize business communications I imagine. You can always download Apache and use it for free, along with several other more light weight server programs. Then there are all the choices of on-line places to publish things, like Google Sites etc.

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by Chocobito June 16, 2009 12:19 PM PDT: Because Opera Unite its not complicate to setup as other Web Server programs, you no need to go to the router con-fig or other stuff like that. The good of Opera Unite if that you control the information, you don't need trust in 3º party organization or unknowns servers for take care of your information, actually you don't know what they would make with your info. Opera Unite its a really good idea.; Like this


by evertsfnic June 16, 2009 4:14 PM PDT: If you are a Computer guy, you can not talk bad about Opera browser, if you do, go and study more.; Like this Reply to this comment


by blafouille June 16, 2009 4:41 PM PDT: First : let's try...and after comment...; Like this Reply to this comment


by AvatarXone June 16, 2009 4:50 PM PDT: The best Old Web reference to this would beICQ-ICQ pages-Mirabilis. . the other from the old times would be FTP static website gateways or even when you used BBS along with IRC and usenet in a old app that used to be around back in 1990-1995 (the only thing it did was putting everything in a single window/dashboard)

There are others and they can be found in Mozilla and Firefox

you add the P.O.W Addon and mix it with bits of Allpeers, The Coop, Weave and Snowl = Opera Unite

From the Microsoft side there is actually a exact reference for this and that is Social Desktop that works via Embedded Silverlight Element in Windows 7 Explorer and pretty much allows you to do the same thing. you could add bit of Live Mesh if you want it to connect locally with services that you can the use with other people using Live Mesh. The key in all of it would be Windows 7 tech, Silverlight and the Live Framework. you could also add a MS P2P solution and you would not only be able to share and collaborate but would let you distribute it too.

Other examples are if you simply mixed a Yuuuguuu/SharedView kind of solution with zapr or linkia or orb or wuala and you will also get the very same thing.

Google version of this is Google Wave (gServices-gGagets) + Google Chrome (since it pushes Google plugins like Gears, NaCl and O3D as the back end)

hell, even the revamp of .Mac with MobileME is also about solving this problem

The problem relies on latency, effective continued connections, security, path managing, routing, upstream bandwith, etc. those are the reasons why few people actively used the old solutions in the 90?s and why even Mozilla has not been able to find the sweet spot yet.

Funny enough it is the very problem that always has obsessed Ray Ozzie and why Live Framework(feedsync, livemesh) was created and it is the main cloud connector bridge for desktops and devices via Windows Azure.

Opera Unite is a Private Cloud Connector Manager. it merely being a web server in a browser would be pointless the things is about Opera Software using their browser, opera link and my.opera as a online services gateway.

The only differences here is that the perspectives are based on desktop/device to cloud or cloud to desktop/device

Microsoft and Opera ironically look to coincide on going with Desktop to Cloud, Mozilla/the yuuuguu/zapr reference would be in a point in between those perspectives and Google and Apple are going at it from a Cloud to Desktop/Devices perspective to it.; Like this Reply to this comment

by gggg sssss June 16, 2009 5:51 PM PDT

Wooppeee. First, read your cable agreement -no servers. Then, you figure out how to open holes in your firewall / router. Then wait for the viruses / trojans whatever to descend.

What a stupid stupid idea.

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by tikoro June 17, 2009 2:03 PM PDT: And the award for most complete failure to comprehend web technologies and "sandbox mode" goes to you my good friend. If you're familiar with a virtual machine, then you're familiar with sandbox mode in a sense. If you're not...why are you making technical statement without the technical knowledge? Unless the code for the sandbox framework has a flaw in it, you're not getting anywhere with it. You're not serving anything really that far above a normally savvy user would. "no servers" would mean really you can't use your internet connection, because all the while you're viewing webpages and watching youtube or what have you, you are also serving information out to somewhere else. Go back and read your ISP agreement again. They're referring to serving something that's going to max out your bandwidth 24/7 or thereabouts, like trying to run twitter out of your house. If you serve enough to negatively affect the throughput of others on the same DSLM or cable "neighborhood" then yeah, you're probably going to get a nastygram from your provider, if you're serving out pictures of your latest vacation, nah...; Like this


by gggg sssss June 17, 2009 8:13 PM PDT: @tikoro java sandbox mode =oops. Flash sandbox = oops, activex, they never claimed it ran in a sandboxand if the thing cant access files on the hard drive, what exactly is the point? But the article does indeed talk about file sharing does it not?

understand web apps?? - please explain what exactly are you serving when viewing a web page? http GET??

and if you were to share out 3 streams of youtube hd, at about 1 megabit per second per stream, you woudl certainly max out any DSL or cable connection in the US. Or my failure to comprehend this i sjust that great.; Like this


by plings June 18, 2009 4:55 PM PDT: LOL.

Evidently gggg sssss hasn't a clue what he is talking about.

Yes, Unite services run in a sandbox.

But again, your ignorance is typical of someone who speaks before he educates himself properly.; Like this


by June 17, 2009 8:48 AM PDT: I think it's great. I have to travel a lot. I don't have any where to place files that I want to share with people. So now I can use Unite. for example I had to send a large file to someone 800MB. I couldn't email it, I didn't want to copy it over to the copy FTP site and then get the receiving person to copy it down. As doing all that requires I get access permissions etc.... Just load and run Unite, it gives my a URL that I can send to the receiving person. They click on the link. all done.
It works behind firewalls, no need to get anything changed etc... When they have collected the file. I turn it off.
simple, easy and it's free.; Like this Reply to this comment