May 20, 2008 4:38 PM PDT

Firefox 3? Not yet

by Peter Butler
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Firefox 3 promotional logo

Will you join the Firefox 3 robot army? Have patience, young cyborg.

(Credit: Mozilla)

Mozilla surprised us a bit with an unexpected release of the first release candidate for Firefox 3 last weekend. It's a likely sign that the official release is nigh.

When will that be? You already know the answer: "When it's ready." My best guess is sometime in the late afternoon, either this month or next.

That said, Release Candidate 1 is going to be close enough to the final version of Firefox 3 that you won't notice any significant differences...until of course, you check your add-ons--extensions and themes. A large number might be incompatible with RC1.

However, let's cut the developers some slack. If an extension is compatible with Firefox 3 beta 5, it will be compatible with RC1 shortly. There's some frantic updating that's likely happening right now. However, if you like Tab Mix Plus a lot (which I do), you might be waiting a bit.

The lack of a few of your favorite extensions and likely all of your favorite themes doesn't mean you shouldn't upgrade to Firefox 3 right now, especially if you're a Web developer (duh), or if you regularly use Web-based Javascript applications such as Gmail frequently.

Firefox 3 extensions incompatible

Several of my favorite Firefox 2 extensions are not yet available for Firefox 3.

(Credit: CNET Networks/Mozilla)

Aside from the obvious factor of missing extensions, I've broken down a few of my own main personal pros and cons for updating to Firefox 3. You can see my own conclusions (and call me names if you want) at the end.

Pro: Speed

Firefox 3 seems to load and render pages faster than Firefox 2, not only on heavier sites such as Gmail and YouTube but on a lot of different Web sites. It makes sense--a new browser should be expected to take better advantage of more recent coding developments--and Mozilla would be in big trouble if it got slower, but it's nice to see some performance improvements, even if they are anecdotal (my browsing habits).

Of course, I'm sure that the smaller number of running extensions may play a large part as well. Firefox 3 also launched a second or two faster than Firefox 2 for me.

Con: Minimal memory gain

There are a lot of factors that go into how much memory a program uses, and it's easy to tweak the settings in both Firefox and Firefox 3, using the about:config screen to set memory cache and release memory when Firefox is minimized. The only difference here: Firefox 3 gives you a humorous "This will void your warranty" warning when you access the about:config screen.

The memory savings from Firefox 2 to Firefox 3 do seem to exist as promised, but they are nothing to write home about. Both used similar amounts when compared on similar Web sites, such as YouTube, CNET Download.com, CNET, CNN, and ESPN. The small memory savings is nice, but I was hoping for something a little leaner, especially with none of those extensions running.

Pro: Smarter address bar

Rafe Needleman took a look at Firefox 3's new "awesome bar" (sometimes called "AwesomeBar") in an interview with Mozilla last week, and it seems to indicate what I was guessing at last summer: the search box is redundant. Put all that functionality into one powerful address bar, simplify the interface, and make everyone happy, right?

Well, maybe it's not that easy. The search box isn't going anywhere, but the address bar itself has become a lot more powerful. Not only does it remember all of your previously visited pages for easy access, but it also uses your bookmarks to accurately predict where you might want to go. Groovy!

Con: Stability

In my own personal testing, Firefox 3 RC1 crashed a few times very unexpectedly, which is something I've taken for granted with Firefox 2, believe it or not. Firefox 2 may grind to a halt when processing a resource-intensive task, but I know that if I leave it alone for a few seconds, it will almost always come back. Firefox 3 slam-dunked me to the curb twice in the span of an afternoon.

The long and short of it

For me, once you get used to a certain interface, it's very hard to go backward. The All-in-One Sidebar and Tab Mix Plus extensions are essential to me, as well as a space-saving themes like Littlefox. Until that sort of functionality is replicated in add-ons that are compatible with Firefox 3, I can't see myself updating to Firefox 3 for my own personal browsing.

It sure was nice to speed through Gmail and YouTube for a while, though...

Have you tried out Firefox 3 Release Candidate 1? What do you think? I haven't had any problems running Firefox 2 and Firefox 3 on the same machine, but if you do, let me know about it. And if you've already upgraded to Firefox 3, tell me why.

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by x33a May 20, 2008 7:05 PM PDT
nice article. i am using ff3 rc1 right now, and it does seem to be faster than ff2. but as you said, there is little gain in terms of memory.and my fav addons like aios, tmp, and febe aren't compatible yet, but good thing is that noscript and abp are working.

and, as i am using the portable version of rc1, i haven't faced any conflicts between ff2 and rc1.
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by x33a May 20, 2008 7:06 PM PDT
nice article. i am using ff3 rc1 right now, and it does seem to be faster than ff2. but as you said, there is little gain in terms of memory.and my fav addons like aios, tmp, and febe aren't compatible yet, but good thing is that noscript and abp are working.

and, as i am using the portable version of rc1, i haven't faced any conflicts between ff2 and rc1.
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by rdr2go May 20, 2008 8:18 PM PDT
I used it for a day, and liked it-speed and feel and layout good, predictive input in address bar nice. But bookmarks needs some work!! Its harder to save new ones and it lost a bunch of my favorite folders-somewhat arbitrarily. Just a few of my regulars, not sure how many, I just went looking for a couple I use a lot and they weren't there. I panicked because I need those, and removed 3 and reinstalled 2 and they were back. Whew. Would maybe have been ok, if foxmarks worked with 3, but it doesn't.
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by tomemiprozac May 20, 2008 8:26 PM PDT
i upgraded to ff3 rc1, and you're right, it loads faster than ff2. browsing wise, there doesn't seem to be a significant difference. i wouldn't be sure though since i don't use gmail. youtube on the other hand renders slightly faster, so that's good. as for the add ons, most of what i'm using are compatible.. (yay for me) except for the all important real download/recording manager!!! :(
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by johnnyzero May 20, 2008 9:02 PM PDT
Installed FF3 rc1 after using the last few FF3 beta's for a couple months.

Loads slightly faster, seems a little peppier, some UI refinements.

rc1 does seem slightly less stable than the beta's - I've had a few crashes, whereas beta's 4 & 5 were rock-solid.

I've also experienced a few site-specific HTML/CSS rendering problems with rc1.
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by mkosma May 20, 2008 9:12 PM PDT
Peter - Tab Mix Plus is working fine for me under RC1. You just need version 0.3.6.1.080416.

download: http://tmp.garyr.net/tab_mix_plus-dev-build.xpi
discussion: http://tmp.garyr.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=7031
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by angrykeyboarder May 20, 2008 9:25 PM PDT
I'm not seeing the slowness that I saw w/Firefox 2. with 20 tabs loaded (and 1 on digg.com and another on gmail). Frankly I thought the speed increase was due to better memory management.
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by javieremo May 20, 2008 9:34 PM PDT
I always test the latest version of firefox with Nightly Tester Tools. It's an extension that overrides the compatibility check of your extensions collection.

Al-in-one sidebar is also essential to me.
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by pampz May 20, 2008 9:36 PM PDT
nice article and working is fine very fast.
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by vigneshhvac May 20, 2008 9:40 PM PDT
like
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by rsacks May 20, 2008 9:44 PM PDT
You can use many extensions now with a minor hack. Download the extension xpi file. (An xpi file is really a zip file) Open the xpi file using a zip utility, such as 7zip. Right click install.rdf. Select edit. This will open a text editor. Search for maxversion. Change maxversion for Firefox to 3.0rc1. Close the text editor. Close the archive (the xpi file). When prompted select update the archive. Drag the xpi icon into firefox and install.

This should work for almost all extensions that work in Firefox 3 beta and many that work in Firefox 2.
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by rsacks May 20, 2008 9:46 PM PDT
You can use many extensions now with a minor hack. Download the extension xpi file. (An xpi file is really a zip file) Open the xpi file using a zip utility, such as 7zip. Right click install.rdf. Select edit. This will open a text editor. Search for maxversion. Change maxversion for Firefox to 3.0rc1. Close the text editor. Close the archive (the xpi file). When prompted select update the archive. Drag the xpi icon into firefox and install.

This should work for almost all extensions that work in Firefox 3 beta and many that work in Firefox 2.
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by actualtiger May 23, 2008 2:06 AM PDT
I looked at Fx3RC1 and used it for a while but like so many of us there are some extensions I can't live without (AIOS, TPM, Roboform being 3 of the major ones), but your tip has gone into quicknote & a postit as there are bound to be some laggards
by Mgd4M May 21, 2008 1:10 AM PDT
I'm happy to hear that
I like fire fox too much
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by emacee1701 May 21, 2008 3:36 AM PDT
The "build version" of Tab Mix Plus works with Firefox 3rc1. I've been using it since Beta4 without any problems. It's available here:
http://tmp.garyr.net/dev-builds/tab_mix_plus-0.3.6.1.080416.xpi
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by dburr13 May 21, 2008 4:48 AM PDT
I've been using FF3 on my laptop since Beta 4...and have noticed a significant improvement in memory management...FF no longer crashes on me because it has consumed all my memory...That was a big problem on the lappy with FF2...

FF3 is noticeably faster on all the sites i visit...In short i'm very pleased with the new Firefox...

btw...more of my favorite extensions and themes are updating every day...In fact my essential extensions are already back.
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by samir4ever May 21, 2008 6:26 AM PDT
it is very nice
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by saayna May 21, 2008 7:15 AM PDT
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by Arthur E. Lemay May 21, 2008 7:21 AM PDT
It is way too buggy for general use, even as a release candidate.

I am a developer and it breaks all my sites because (I think) the Javascript is not handled correctly, but then again, some of my pages have thousands of lines of Javascript, but they work with IE6, IE7, Firefox 2.0.0.10 through 14, and with Safari on the MAC.

And Real Player, one of the most popular add-ons is not supported. This must be fixed.
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by kanagarajan May 21, 2008 7:38 AM PDT
firefox it is a nice browser which i am using for a long time. just i am trying firefox 3.
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by tiotaco May 21, 2008 7:45 AM PDT
I'm in my 3rd day with no problems, and enjoying the greater speed.
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