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February 20, 2008 5:54 PM PST

Killer Download: Organize, tag music collections

by Jason Parker
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I get my music from several places. Over time I've ripped most of the CDs in my collection and have also bought songs on iTunes. Though file sharing is tempting--and fairly popular judging by our Most Popular list--I've only used those applications a couple of times over the years for long lost remixes. I guess I try to stay legal out of respect for the musicians, but this article isn't about the legality of file sharing.

The problem is, when you get your music from a lot of different sources, you end up with strangely tagged tracks and artist information which completely messes up your library. Particularly if you have a large music collection, you'll find duplicates of songs you forgot you had, partial downloads of songs, and songs you had forgotten you even added to your library because they were tagged in such a way they show up at the bottom of your list.

One way to remedy this problem is to go through and switch each of the tags yourself. iTunes lets you switch each tag manually, but you have to go through each song one by one to change the information. Fortunately there's a group of programs which let you batch tag and convert multiple songs so your audio files stay organized. Though it takes some work, when you're finished you'll be able to find everything easily and sort by genre, name, artist, and year, knowing all your songs will show up that fit the criteria selected.

There are free and paid versions of this type of music tagging software, and in this Killer Download I've included a little of both. As always, if you have a better alternative, let us know in the comments.

A tabbed interface makes it easy to get the tagging functions you want.

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My Mp3's has a misused apostrophe in its title, but as a free MP3 tagging editor is pretty useful. You'll be able to grab huge chunks of your library and switch all the tag types at once to lighten your load. It offers handy tools to standardize your tagging method and it lets you copy your chosen tagging method to other groups of songs to save time. The included track player was a little buggy during my testing, but most of the features are well designed and work fine.







Mp3Tag

Exhaustive tagging options in this application make it perfect for the detail-oriented audiophile.

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Mp3Tag is a shareware tagging editor ($24.95) which offers a few more features than My Mp3's. Mp3Tag lets you batch tag several audio file formats by filling in the appropriate fields, and offers a few other cool features in its multiwindow interface. Those who like to sing along will appreciate the capability to search the Web for song lyrics to attach to the file. You can also use Mp3Tag to download album art from the Web so all your music will have that nifty picture when it loads up. The included player on this application worked fine in my testing and I liked the amount of info you can edit for each song with My Mp3's.

MediaMonkey

A skinnable interface and extensive tagging options make this full-featured jukebox a hit.

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MediaMonkey Standard is probably our most popular application in this category and for good reason. MediaMonkey can be used as your main jukebox application, complete with custom playlists, album art, an excellent included player, and CD ripping and burning. The tagging system is excellent as well, with the ability to ping Amazon for album art and tagging conventions with the click of a button. A left navigation window lets you sort by any tags you've assigned which makes playlists from a specific era or genre a snap. After your songs are properly tagged, you can drag and drop conventions to other artists to get your preferred layout. It even supports syncing with your iPod. A gold version of MediaMonkey ($19.95) adds options to automatically tag new music as you add it, autofile conversion, autoplaylists, and more.

If you have a big library of music which is getting out of control, try standardizing your tags with one of these programs. Once your music is fully organized you'll be happy with how easy it is to find your favorite songs. For more on MP3 tagging, check out this post by our very own Seth Rosenblatt.

Jason Parker writes software reviews and features for Windows, Mac, and iPhone. If he learned to dance, it would make him a fabled "quadruple threat," but we can't get him to do it.
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by woodsdog_22 February 20, 2008 6:48 PM PST
I'm not saying I don't like these applications, they are good, but I think winamp rocks! Use its auto tagger to to tag many files at once. its easy, free, and seems to have gotten all my files tagged spot on so far.... so many possibilities within winamp... just doesn't seem to get much of a mention round these parts...
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by JoyceNgo-218335993631273378369 February 21, 2008 6:37 AM PST
I agree with woodsdog_22, but if you are only looking for a tag editor, then these should work alone. I too, edit many mp3 tags, some of them come with very annoying things that Windows don't usually let me edit.
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by daren.darrow February 21, 2008 10:35 AM PST
Anyone have a recommendation for this type of program for a Mac?
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by ericasavaaree February 22, 2008 11:04 PM PST
Yeah, iTunes does it automatically for you. Just have to enter the MP3 tags properly, and it'll sort by Artist-->Album-->[Track Number] [Name].[audio file type].
by gary85739 February 22, 2008 4:52 AM PST
I find MediaMonkey so good, I use the paid edition now!

It does everything I need to smoothly collect and itemize my music.

The smoothest transition, flawlessly putting songs into whatever category you decide.
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by lernzremix February 22, 2008 12:27 PM PST
my problem isnt tagging, my major headache w/ my music collection DRM. Does anybody know of a reliable software app that can be used to remove DRM protection, DRM is an evil *****!!
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by pthalocyanine February 22, 2008 10:24 PM PST
I know I'm nitpicking, but the apostrophe is actually in the correct place.
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by DanFrain March 8, 2008 12:38 PM PST
The apostrophe is in the correct place only if it refers to a possessive, referring to something owned by or a property of "My MP3" (My MP3's file properties) or a contraction (My MP3's going to play...").

Please nitpick only when you're sure you're right. I find myself holding my tongue a lot, but since you opened that can of worms, I chose to rise to the bait.
by jxballard February 23, 2008 1:38 PM PST
Winamp rocks and its hard to say anything else is even in the game!
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by hotdiva February 26, 2008 8:54 PM PST
Hi gang,
I am new to downloading music. I don't know what you mean by tags. Can someone explain? Thanks.
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by xstitcher February 26, 2008 8:58 PM PST
Does anyone know of a very simple way to print playlist? Right now the only way I can print is to use the shift and print screen. This adds what ever my desktop border is showing. Using word pad takes too long. I have to copy, paste, print. Close word pad and the start all over again on the next page. Thanks to all.
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by HaulMarc February 26, 2008 11:33 PM PST
I use a very simple and free program called 'MP3 list'. You can find it at this site http://www.wulfden.com/. Click on projects, then look at upper right corner for some tabs and click on the mp3list tab. You may have to play with it a little to get the results you like. You can create the list in text or html format.
by Flashorn February 27, 2008 3:32 AM PST
Hey xstitcher!! This is how I do it. I use this little known program called "Cropper" . It is a re sizable screen capture utility that you can drag anywhere on your screen. it stays on top if you so wish or hides . When you take a "picture" you can send the pic. directly to your "printer" . No mess , no fuss.
Here's a link to read about or download and ,of course, free
http://blogs.geekdojo.net/brian/articles/Cropper.aspx . Need any more info. just post.

FLASHORN.
by Mr Statto February 27, 2008 4:13 AM PST
I use Winamp, and save the playlist. Then navigate to wherever you saved it, open in Notepad, Word or Excel and print.

This is an example of what it looks like:

#EXTINF:203,ACDC - Girls Got Rhythm
ACDC\The Best Of\06 Girl's Got Rhythm.mp3
#EXTINF:236,Eugene Cicero - Love Walked In
George Gershwin\The Best of George Gershwin\03. Eugene Cicero - Love Walked In.mp3

I'm not sure if it's possible to display with just the artist & title, other than using Text to Columns in Excel
by allenb45 February 26, 2008 9:52 PM PST
I don't download music nor do I load music on to my PC. What I have is a considerable library of CD's (purchased) and I am looking for a freeware program that I can use to categorise my collection so that I can find CD's by artist, title, genre, etc.

Anybody know of such a program that works well without having to type everything in?

Thank you in anticipation
(1st time user) from Oz.
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by 3753cruithne February 27, 2008 5:24 PM PST
Smart CD Catalog might do the trick.
http://www.smartcdcatalog.com/
by kyledstedman October 29, 2008 7:12 PM PDT
Allen, this is EXACTLY what I've been looking for for a long time. In fact, I'd like much more than Smart CD catalog does: I'd like to tag my songs (whether on CDs or mp3s or vinyl or cassette) online with descriptive tags in addition to just the basic info--things like "songs with girls' names in the title" and "songs I like to drive to." Then I'd like to compare my tags to the tags other people have come up with! If you hear of anything like this, let me know.
by methowelectricsparky February 26, 2008 9:57 PM PST
The greatest screen print program that I ahve found and use often is Print Key 2000. Best of all, It is free!
Methowelectricsparky
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by harpic04 February 26, 2008 10:59 PM PST
I have so much music duplicated on both iTunes and Windows systems, that a great chunk of disc space is being wasted ! It seems these systems aren't very good at communicating with each other where music downloads are concerned ! If i delete all tracks from either system, do I jeapordize the tracks on my MP3?
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by 3753cruithne February 27, 2008 4:50 PM PST
In iTunes: under Edit>Preferences>Advanced
disable "copy files to iTunes library..."

In WMP: under Tools>Options>Library disable "Rearrange music in rip folder..."

To ensure that the two WMP and iTunes aren't ripping to their own proprietary formats (wma and aac):
In WMP under Tools>Options>Rip Music, change the format to mp3.
In iTunes under Edit>Preferences>Advanced>Import change "Import using..." to MP3 encoder.
Doing this in both programs will prevent iTunes from converting the wma files to mp3/aac thus doubling up the files on your computer.

Run DoubleKiller on your Music folder to locate identical files, either by name or CRC value. If iTunes has been renaming and converting files, they will probably have different names so you may have to do this part manually. Also if you have any ratings associated with the files they will be lost for the files you delete.

If you are not worried about rebuilding your music library (losing rating info) and your music is in different formats and have different names, you could run TagScanner on your Music Folder (select scan subdirectories) and then use the Music Renamer feature to rename all the tracks to "Artist - Track number - Track title" (%1 - %7 - %2). Once you've done that, run DoubleKiller and that should find all the doubles.

In iTunes the easiest way to avoid doubles is to clear the library, and re-import everything. Just make sure you don't delete the files when you delete then from the iTunes library.

After you've done that you should probably decide which media player you intend to use the most and stick with that, there isn't much point in using two different jukebox applications.

NB: If you use ratings for your music and don't want to lose them the easiest way to keep them is to:
1) sort your songs by rating
2) select all the songs with a certain rating (i.e. 5 stars)
3) right click and "Get Info" in iTunes, or, "Advanced Tag Editor" in WMP.
4) Type 5 in the BPM tag or comment tag (one you don't use) and save.
5) When you rebuild your library, do the reverse. Sort by BPM, then add the rating.
by BerT6801 February 27, 2008 5:02 AM PST
I have to agree with woodsdog_22, even though winamp seems to take a bit to start on the newer builds, it seems to handle all of my audio playing with ease. I actually use a much older version because I HATE TO WAIT when I click a song, As for tagging though, thats another issue. Since we all seem to own Ipods or sansa's or whatever...tagging is HUGE now. I found "Tag & Rename" app to be the best. I had been using Mp3Tagstudio till I started wanting it to handle coverart searching, and even the new one did not( that I know of). So in search of a replacement that handled coverart well, this is what I found. However media monkey did come in a close second. :D
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by jackcrompton February 27, 2008 5:28 AM PST
If we're going to start a punctuation forum, here's my contribution. Mp3s doesnt need an apostrophe at all. So there!
Jack
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by jackcrompton February 27, 2008 5:29 AM PST
Well, jackcrompton, you're some ignoramus. Doesn't has an apostrophe, and you missed it out.
Me
by Josella February 27, 2008 11:54 PM PST
My favourite is Quintessential Player (http://www.quinnware.com/) for its superior sound (I think it sounds way better than WinAmp, QT and WMP), and it also tags songs by an automatic link to Gracenote. Unfortunately there's no Mac version.

Another great application is MP3Gain (http://mp3gain.sourceforge.net/) a free program that can adjust your MP3s to the same volume level. I don't know the specifics, but it does some sort of remix also, that gives the music a better quality.

PS. Putting the apostrophe in "MP3's" means that something belongs to the MP3, like "The MP3's sound quality". Leaving out the apostrophe means it's a plural.

PPS. To the person who wanted to know what tags are - it's a means of identifying MP3s with information like song title, artist, album, year of release, genre, etc. - info that some MP3 players require.
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by terra950 March 1, 2008 6:39 PM PST
No apostrophe should be used. MP3s is plural, MP3's is possessive.
Make sure they are really nits before you start pickin' em.
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