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January 19, 2008 9:15 AM PST

Power Downloader manages a superhero-size music collection

by Peter Butler
Power Downloader manages a super-size music collection (Credit: CNET Networks)

Aside from his storied history of mastering downloadable software and ensnaring cyber-ne'er-do-wells around the globe, Power Downloader is also a longtime music collector. Since the very first 78rpm record he received as a young boy on Christmas Day untold years ago, Power has combed the stacks of record stores everywhere he travels. From Jerry Lee Lewis, the Beatles, and the Stooges to Arcade Fire, R. Kelly, and The White Stripes, Power Downloader has acquired a gigantic music collection that now also lives on his PC, portable MP3 player, and via software, any connected computer, or iPhone in the world.

When the digital-music revolution was only beginning to brew, Power took the opportunity to transfer a large number of his vinyl LP records to his PC using the free software Musicmatch, since acquired by Yahoo. Although he doesn't buy nearly as many records now as he did during the wild disco '70s, he still manages to acquire more than a few in the course of his adventures. Today he uses the free software Audacity to record his audio directly from his turntable to his PC using a preamp and a RCA-to-headphone adapter.

For ripping CDs, the options are numerous. Power's first choice is still the tried and true CDex, GPL-licensed software that very simply converts discs into lossless WAV files, compressed MP3s, or patent-free OGG files. Some users complain about slow transfer rates, but Power's more concerned with quality regardless.

File Renamer Basic

File Renamer Basic makes renaming files by ID3 tag a snap.

(Credit: CNET Networks)

Through the years and batches of albums, CDs, and free digital downloads from sources like Download.com Music, Power has collected music files on his media PC that vary wildly in file name structure. Some are Artist-Album-Song, others Artist-Song, and many others simply song names as file names, with no artist info at all.

To standardize his digital music files, Power fires up the extremely useful free utility File Renamer Basic. This fantastic freeware lets you automatically find and replace terms from file names, delete a certain number of character from the beginning or end of the file, and directly edit ID3 tags for your music files. Even better, the app will automatically rename files based on their ID3v1 or ID3v2 tags. Insert the keywords you'd like to use to create the filename, select the files you want to rename, and voila--instant normalization of filenames.

Finally, to listen to his gigantic music library anywhere he goes, Power uses the free app Simplify Media, which lets you share your iTunes or Winamp libraries with any computer (or iPhone) with a connection to the Web. Those measly 160GB iPods aren't enough for Power's massive collection (plus you know he's got video). Using a home-networking system, multiple external hard drives, and DVDs full of archived tunes, Power has years and years of music to listen to, no matter where his adventures take him.

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by vivtho January 22, 2008 2:25 AM PST
I use another program to manage my music collection. It has most of the features mentioned above (it misses a few), but has them all in one program. I was a MusicMatch Jokebox deveotee until they got taken over. The best replacement I've found (and it's far superior to MMJB) is MediaMonkey (well-fledged trial version at www.mediamonkey.com).

I realize that I probably sound like a paid shill (I'm not), but I recently started using MediaMonkey and am simply blown away.
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by Rodgman January 22, 2008 11:21 AM PST
I recently downloaded Media Monkey as I read some good things about it. I also was a MMJB devotee for years until Yahoo totally fubared it (and then Microsoft killed it entirely when they released IE7). I started using Winamp, which has a bit of a learning curve with all the customizations and plugins that are available with it. I have found Winamp with the dynamic library plugin to be the best option yet for managing my music library. The dynamic library basically reflects the directory structure of the folder where your music is stored. If changes are made to any music files or to the directory structure, Dynamic Library updates itself automatically (a drastic improvement over MMJB). I still miss the simplicity of MMJB and some other features that Winamp doesn't offer, but as we know, time marches on. Unfortunately, nothing stays the same.
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by RodsMine January 22, 2008 7:06 PM PST
I'm also a big fan of WinAmp. I liked MMJB, but got it and was still learning about it just before they messed it up -- so WinAmp was till my choice.

However, I backed out from v5.5 to v5.35 because of what they did with the ID3 tag pages. I rename the files and fill in both the ID3 v1 and the ID3 v2 tags. After v5.35, they split the tags into two different dialog boxes -- what a pain to tag them now. I've found most ID3 taggers don't fill in both sets of fields -- usually just the v2 fields nowadays.

Thanks for the tip about the Dynamic Library plugin -- wasn't aware of it. How long does it take to load new file info (like, if there are 100+ new MP3s to index)?
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by froasier January 24, 2008 6:57 AM PST
The front tab (Basic Info) in the file info dialog in Winamp 5.5 fills in both tags for you. It's very convenient. And you could always use the "Copy to ID3v1" button in any of the versions.
by wgardenhire January 22, 2008 8:20 PM PST
If there is a better program than Media Monkey, I haven't found it. This program will blow you away. I have used it for years and have a Lifetime Gold license. There are only two versions, free and Gold. The difference between the two is minimal as is the price. To date, the maximum number of files that Media Monkey can handle has not been found. The manner in which one can manipulate files is unending. This program handles scripting, is fully skinnable and customizable, and WinAmp plug in compatible. Best of all, support is the very best. Give this program a try, you'll be glad you did. BTW, I don't hide behind a 'handle', my name is William Gardenhire; and I rarely recommend software. Media Monkey is worthy of my endorsement.
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by smosner January 22, 2008 9:53 PM PST
I really have to laugh at all the ways people keep a large collection of music, Mine is very eaey, I microsoft's windows media 10, I mantain 120 gig drive, but I put in a seperate drive just for the music, and it works quite well, with there listings it is very easy. I just have to run the finder oonce in a while to keep thins stright!! Why buy what you already have?
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by inconet January 22, 2008 11:44 PM PST
I have stalled my ripping process beause of a special problem. More than 80% of my music is classical, mostly multi-part compositions with defined auses between parts - some most transfer without the slightest pause or click, some need 1 sec. others up to 30 seconds. I haven't found any software yet able to do that. Other bloggers have sugested combining complete symphonies, oratoria and operas to a single audio file, but than seems weired from the point of view of finding specific parts, arias or choruses. Anyone knows a solution?
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by jszania January 27, 2008 11:34 PM PST
use a "make an image" option in free Exact Audio Copy. it creates a *.cue index file that is recognized by winamp (maybe you need an additional winamp plugin for that, I don't remember)
by topblues January 23, 2008 1:49 AM PST
Greetings,
I've been in the Radio biz for over 25 years and have accumulated a whole lot o' CD's
which I'm slowly but surely downloading into my itunes. Am currently doing a (not for profit) Blues Internet Radio Station on 365.com called "TOPBLUES!" and need a flex player to help me do the job. After trying many free and not so free players, I find that itunes does it all for me without too much insanity. I've currently downloaded over 200 gigs of tunage and really have only made a dent in my music library. Love those blues!!! Also the itunes player has been great.
Enjoy!
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by koleoptero January 23, 2008 2:52 AM PST
The music organizing issue is a sensitive point for me. I am a psycho when it comes to having a tidy music collection. I want all files to be "artist\album
umber - title" or else they have no place in my collection.

For ripping huge amounts of cds I prefer poikosoft's easy cd-da extractor. It's by far the best and I believe if you use it you would agree. It's not free of course but it's worth its money (every penny of it).

But for organizing old mp3s, after testing just about everything, I use tagscanner. The new version is simply amazing. Fixing the tags and filenames of about 6000 scattered mp3s took me 3 days, with about 4-5 hrs of work each day. Some albums didn't even have artist or album tags or any names, but tagscanner was able to identify them online. This tool is simply amazing, light years beyond any other (e.g. mediamonkey).

I hope this helps.
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by smallseb January 23, 2008 3:47 AM PST
My music is my life. Or quite my life, and I have to keep it organized.
So since the beguining I am really organised in my music library.
I used to keep file like: "Genre/Artist/album/#-Artist-Name", but i realized I had some trouble with it to find what i wanted since sometime the artist wasn't in the genre I was looking for.

So I change it to a "Artist/album" way. I used "The godfather" to make this happened. And then, I realised that for compilations or OST, It was a mess... Each Artist in a new folder for only one track. So I alkways keep a OST folder with compilations.
For tags, and when I rip CD, I mostly use WP11. It is good tagging (file and ID3).

I recentely discovered that Winamp had this new feature in the Media Library (Select traks for tagging, then right mouse button, send to => "Auto Tag") Winamp looks through CDDB (which is in my opinion the greatest ID3 tag library on the web) and found each and single old tune that I couldn't find (even track album, year relased date, composer and publisher).

And It also added the old "Music IP Mix" and go through CDDB to match songs after scanning the whole library (select a tune in the ML, right click and choose "play similar files"...) and the scan will beguin.

Now, i just keep my library well organised, make back up on an external HDD so I can delete whatever I want and keep the tunes...
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by pmollica January 23, 2008 4:34 AM PST
Hello Folks;
Been at this for years - very simple. Windows Media Player 11. I have 23,000 songs all in lossless wma format. I have them locally, and backed up on a NAS on my home network. I use Microsoft's Free SyncToy to synchronize between the two whenever I have new additions. And since I'm running Windows Vista Ultimate, I can play them in Media Player or Media Center. Also can stream them to my XBOX360. Also can stream them to another Vista Ultimate computer connected to my Samsung 46" LCD TV which outputs to a Sony Dream Machine Surround Sound Receiver. And I have them shared in my public folder so my kids can access any of my music that doesn't make them wretch. (Actually our tastes are very similar). Anytime I want to take them with me, I can have WMP11 automatically sync a playlist to my connected Palm 700W with a 2GB SD Card, which WMP11 automatically converts them to MP3 before syncing to my phone. I can then connect my phone via audio cable to the dash of my 2007 Chevrolet Silverado, and play them using the Media Player in Windows Mobile 5 through the truck's Audio system. The nice thing is that when a call comes in, the music pauses, while I take the call through the Silverado's built-in Speakers and Microphone, then resumes playing when I am through with the call. Anytime I do need to convert from different formats to WMA, I use the paid version of EZ CD Extractor to convert. It has been a labor of love for many years now. My kids tell me my collection is the stuff of legends. The size of the collection is about 300GB's at this point. I find WMP11 works pretty flawlessly, and has no problem with the size of the collection. Regards!
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by froasier January 24, 2008 7:10 AM PST
You don't need Vista to do any of that (let alone Ultimate)... all possible on good ol' XP. Also quit bragging about all the crap you have--your TV, phone, and SUV really have nothing to do with music collection management. You sound like a Windows Vista/Chevrolet advertisement.
by Abdulismail January 23, 2008 4:36 AM PST
I never knew it was so easy to be in the worls of music, until i discover this site. thank you very much for knowing what the people really want.

looking forward to see more from you
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by Abdulismail January 23, 2008 4:36 AM PST
I never knew it was so easy to be in the worls of music, until i discover this site. thank you very much for knowing what the people really want.

looking forward to see more from you
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by Abdulismail January 23, 2008 4:37 AM PST
so good to be with you
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by mtnbob--2008 January 23, 2008 6:15 AM PST
I'm not certain what all of the fuss is about. I have been downloading for YEARS and have simply stored the files in their own folder kept on a 350 gig hard drive. Each file is labeled with the artist's name. Into that I place a subfolder with the album name. This is done for each album by the particular artist. Misc. music from the artist can be placed into a separate file. Along with the music, pics of the artist are added as well as a bio. When I want to listen to a particular artist or album or create a CD, I simply select the artist, find the album or tracs, and drag to my favorite player or copy program. Maybe I'm missing something, but this works very well for me.
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by catatonic--2008 January 23, 2008 7:07 AM PST
If you are interested in managing large media libraries then you should look at J. River MEDIA CENTER (available on download.com). This is a serious organization tool, but don't take my word for it. Here is a thread from the product forum that talks about some users massive collections (300, 000 plus mp3s).
http://yabb.jriver.com/interact/index.php?topic=42606.0
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by John72953 January 23, 2008 8:37 AM PST
I also used MMJB PLUS for years and loved it. Now I've switched to MEDIAMONKEY, but I still miss my MMJB PLUS. Yahoo really butchered MMJB PLUS when they bought it and I'm really p*ssed about it!

MEDIAMONKEY is alright (and I did sign up for the Gold version), but it is no MMJB PLUS!

At the moment there isn't one single program that has captured my needs quite like MMJB PLUS! So I keep looking! Maybe one day, Yahoo will get wise and undo a program that didn't need to be fixed in the first place!
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by tarrantm January 23, 2008 9:43 AM PST
I started using musikCube a while ago cuz I don't trust iTunes and been keeping my eye on Songbird which looks really promising.
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by rphonstenk January 23, 2008 10:12 AM PST
A great program to get your tags and file name in working order is free at
www.mp3tag.de/en.

To play foobar2000 a great lightweight player, add on trough the forum and also free at http://www.foobar2000.org/
Enjoy !
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by Saint Ives January 23, 2008 1:58 PM PST
I actually use 2 programs for my media - Media Player and Roxio's Easy Media Creator suite. Media Player is pretty straightforward as far as basic file organization and ripping/burning is concerned and I use Roxio for advanced tweaking. I tried Media Monkey and I hated it - my system hung up every time I accessed it. I never even bothered with Jukebox and the only reason I have ITunes is that a friend gave me a gift card for Christmas (I am in no way a big fan of Apple and I won't touch a Mac). Besides, the only real problem Media Player has is that it will quickly hang on slower systems - other than that its all pretty smooth.
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by GLCRAIG January 23, 2008 4:44 PM PST
When it comes to getting all of your music files renamed consistently, I have found a program called KJ File Manager which has just been unbelieveably productive in correcting file names, especially zip files in conjunction with CDGs. Latshaw Systems licences the product for little of nothing compared to the many staff weeks it can save someone who has huge collections.
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