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October 2, 2007 12:40 PM PDT

Office of the future?

by Peter Butler
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For most everyone working in the U.S. corporate world, Microsoft Office is a must: Outlook for e-mail/calendar; Word for word processing; Excel for spreadsheets; and PowerPoint for presentations. The 2007 release has been covered extensively on CNET Reviews.

However, a recent rise in free office suites has given end users much more choice in productivity software than they've had in many years. Just two weeks ago, IBM announced a free version of Lotus Symphony. Though it's still in beta release, the freeware includes serviceable word processor, spreadsheet, and presentation software, all of which support Microsoft Office file formats.

The best known Office alternative is still OpenOffice.org, which also includes word processing, spreadsheets, and presentations, but it also throws a database application (Base), a vector-graphics program (Draw), and a mathematical formula tool (Math) into the mix. The open-source productivity suite is based on StarOffice, now owned by Sun Microsystems.

Curiously, Sun recently made StarOffice (listed for $69.95 on its Web site) available for free via a partnership with Google Pack.

Speaking of Google, the online giant hopes to give Microsoft a run for its office money by providing free Web-based tools that anyone with a browser can access. Google Docs & Spreadsheets is much more limited than Word and Excel, but the collaboration features are mighty attractive. Also, online software such as Zoho Virtual Office is even more advanced than Google's offering.

For a comparison of alternative office software, be sure to check out Elsa Wenzel's recent roundup of competitors to Microsoft Office.

What do you think? Do you still rely on your trusty Word, Excel, and PowerPoint applications, or have you moved on to an alternative. How many of you have tried online word processors or spreadsheets? Tell me about it in the comments.

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open office
by ericamity October 2, 2007 4:14 PM PDT
I've been using Open Office for a while now and I think it's an excellent alternative to MS Office. I've actually uninstalled MS Office and now rely solely on Open Office. I can view Word docs in OO, and also Excel docs. I've created fairly detailed spreadsheets in OO, and then, when viewing these spreadsheets in Excel, have had no issues with formatting being lost. All in all, it's very intuitive and very user friendly and very FREE and very open source and very smart.

The only cons are that you must save documents in the correct format for others to be able to view them (that is, if the people you're sending them to don't have OO). My wife uses OO on her laptop with Vista . . . no problems. My other friend has been using OO for the last two years and would never return to MS Office.

It's definitely a viable alternative and will save you lots of $$ in the long run . . . GET IT!

Eric
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Open Office and Export
by goldfish_23 October 4, 2007 4:19 AM PDT
One of the things I liked about OpenOffice.org (OOo) was the export as PDF option. I don't have to save documents as MS .doc or OOo .odt just to share documents I've produced, instead I can publish them usubg a format that is designed to be portable, i.e. PDF.

I've been using OOo since version 1.0 and I would never return to Microsoft Office. I find OOo more intuitive than MS Office ever was. I actively look forward to each new version, it just keeps getting better and better.
Open Office
by seashorefilmworks October 4, 2007 8:47 AM PDT
I could not even download the program. Went on line did signed up to help spread the word for it and all but could never get to use because could never complete the download
Good for reading above your compatibility level
by TreknologyNet October 4, 2007 6:57 PM PDT
Apart from having stuck to Word 95 for so many years without upgrading, I also have Open Office 2 loaded so that when people send Office 200x documents, spreadsheats etc., I can still read them. I never use spread sheets or Power Point, but some people just insist on sending these files as email attachments.
File types
by piercedtiger October 5, 2007 1:38 PM PDT
If you goto Tools -> Options -> Load/Save -> General and change the default file format. I set mine to MS standards (word, excel, powerpoint 97/2003) since everyone I know uses/wants MS formats. Then I never have to think about it.
Watch out for Open office...
by rlessmue October 10, 2007 12:17 PM PDT
O.k. - Here are something to watch out for.
From my experience, I had a problem - uninstalling - Open office, because I didn't have the original install file. The original install file was large... if I remember 300 mb or something.. so I trashed it... after all I could just download it again if I needed it...right?!!

So, when I decided to uninstall Open office it asked for the original install file. I thought I would just download it and that would help me with the "uninstall" process. No luck. Luckly, I had this on a laptop that I had a backup of and just ended up wiping the drive (due to other reasons - not because of Open office). I'm not sure if this was just for earlier versions of Open Office...but I have not tried it on their current version regarding the uninstalling issue. Hopefully they got this problem fixed.
Office Alts;
by buster Fykes October 2, 2007 4:25 PM PDT
The only problem with the free programs is lack of a fully fledged mail program. The Calendar, and the scheduling of appointments offered in "Outlook" are a must for businesses.
Other than that "Open Office" is every bit as good, in my opinion. The only reason I'm not using it is it's lack of integration with "Outlook". Outlook Express is fine for mail, but lacks the other aforementioned items.
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Office Alts all the way
by raveesh1243 October 2, 2007 4:43 PM PDT
I have been using openoffice for a long time now and have faced no problems what so ever. i would suggest all those ms lovers to give OO a try.
And those who claim lack of a good email program get Thunderbird
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Get rid of MS Office?
by jhaining October 2, 2007 4:45 PM PDT
I just can't fathom not using Word, Excel, Powerpoint. Not that I'm a diehard MS fan. They are so ingrained in my daily work, I just can't imagine it. But then again, there are a lot of new things (smart phones, etc.) that I never thought I would rely on 6 years ago!

JIM
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StarOffice is a great alternative to MS Office
by paul_lambert October 2, 2007 4:58 PM PDT
I have been using StarOffice for over 6 years, and find it to be a great office productivity suite. The latest version has improved performance, and has all of the features that a power user like myself needs. One of the greatest features is native PDF creation support. The only weakness that I have found is in StarCalc (spreadsheet app) that doesn't handle filtering and pivot tables as nicely as Excel. Other than that, I would highly recommend StarOffice or OpenOffice.
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MS Office... No longer for the average Jo-sephine
by jimjutte October 2, 2007 5:14 PM PDT
A few years ago I was still teaching MS Office apps. Once it went over a thousand dollars for the full package, I knew it was a matter of time... before I would be switching, if not for me, for the clients that I was teaching.

I have been using OOo now for a couple of years and have not regretted it for the word processor, spreadsheet or presentation package. Its DBMS is still weak compared to MS Access, likely due to time that it has existed.

It's ability now to produce PDF's and enhanced ability to import make it a no-brainer.

Unless anyone specifically needs MS... why on EARTH would anyone bother to purchase it with a free version of OOo? or even if one wants to donate money to the cause...

MS will have to either come up with a reasonable consumer option or look to other ways of defeating office suites like OOo. They lost me a LONG time ago though.

Cheers
Jim
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OOO COMPATABILITY PROBLEMS EXCEL
by Nevk October 3, 2007 8:47 PM PDT
Jim
Some years ago I swapped but OOO made an absolute mess of my Spreadsheets then I found I couldn't open them in Excel.

As I move around a lot I need access to different computers which normally have only Excel.

Have you experienced any problems like this with the newer versions.

Nev
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but how do I get OOo?
by nanr42 October 4, 2007 10:48 AM PDT
I tried twice to d/l OOo and both times it wouldn't install. I got an error message that the file was corrupt. Then when I went to the website, I got lost trying to find a place to report the problem and find a workable installer. And after I had logged in, I was asked to log in again at the forums (I think) and was rejected because I had the wrong name/pw. So far, I haven't been impressed with Open Office. I thought it would be a great alt. to MS Office, but now I'm not so sure. The website is confusing and complicated. I can't install the product. I can't get any response from anybody. So how is this better?
wrong question?
by timbrady1124 October 4, 2007 11:31 AM PDT
Perhaps we need to change the question. Given the type of work that most of us do (not all that complicated), maybe we should be asking why we should STAY with Microsoft?
$1000? umm...ok
by bsharkey October 5, 2007 5:52 PM PDT
MS Office 2007 ULTIMATE (with all the bells and whistles, some of which are new and very cool, and several you may not even need) is $695 MSRP. I'm not exactly sure where the over $1000 comment comes from with regards to 2003 or earlier. As for 2007, this is a very slick package and I for one and very excited to use it as my new home / small business productivity software (which I can install on one desktop and one laptop for one user at this price).

Even then, students can buy this for $60 on the web by taking Microsoft's special offer through spring 2008 - not a student and teacher version, not Office Basic, the same ULTIMATE package in retail form. When you consider that anyone can register at a local community college and take a 1-unit class for about $20, this is a ridiculous bargain.

Most of the Office Imitators are pretty junky, painful to deal with, and/or not full-featured for power users. Yeah they'll "sorta" work but for the genuine article pony up and buy the real deal. I gotta say it's worth it, especially when you consider all the deals out there.
Office of the Past
by drogge October 2, 2007 6:02 PM PDT
I don't know anyone who uses Microsoft Office for anything other than occasional compatibility checks: for collaboration, the web tools from Google are far superior (simpler, sure, but when it comes to sharing work and actual collaboration in real time years ahead of anything Office can cludge together); for full featured documents the MS suite offers little more than the cludgy looking, yesteryear formats that draw audible sighs when a viewer is subjected to them (when was the last time anyone got interested when they saw a PowerPoint presentation struggle to open?)

While the "Open" office suites do a fine enough job of replacing the legacy Microsoft sludge, they still don't break free of the 1980's mindset that still pervades the genre -- at least not yet. Thankfully, tools like iWork offer genuine innovation, true ease of use, adherence to open standards, and great tools for compelling end results -- and a reasonable cost point to boot.

As far as Outlook / Entourage etc. you have got to be kidding right? Talk about tools only an IT geek could love (to impose). No human being would choose such ugly, counter-intuitive, counter-productive communication monstrosities.

On the bright side, it does appear that Microsoft is happy enough to see their second profitable business stagnate and become irrelevant: probably the smart thing to do, as saving this dinosaur from extinction would require a radical rethink that is obviously not within the sandbox of Seattle. With Vista in full-on flop mode, and Office in equally dire straights, maybe we will see a renaissance in micro-computing, returning some of the promise that has been so sadly failed upon by vendors over the past decade.
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Unfortunately, Office is still necessary
by john3347 October 2, 2007 6:29 PM PDT
I have been using various MS Office suites since Office 95 and OO.o for two or three years now. I find OO.o somewhat less intuitive and harder to (learn how to) accomplish certain tasks with than MS Office. I have particular trouble with OO.o when attempting to copy from a website and paste into Writer. Also, in spite of the reputed interchangability with Word; I have yet to email a document created in OO.o to a recipient who does not have OO.o and them be able to open the document. For this reason, I feel the need to remain an MS Office user looking for a reasonable alternative. Can anybody identify to me a true compatible alternative?
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Unfortunately, Office is still necessary
by john3347 October 2, 2007 6:30 PM PDT
I have been using various MS Office suites since Office 95 and OO.o for two or three years now. I find OO.o somewhat less intuitive and harder to (learn how to) accomplish certain tasks with than MS Office. I have particular trouble with OO.o when attempting to copy from a website and paste into Writer. Also, in spite of the reputed interchangability with Word; I have yet to email a document created in OO.o to a recipient who does not have OO.o and them be able to open the document. For this reason, I feel the need to remain an MS Office user looking for a reasonable alternative. Can anybody identify to me a true compatible alternative?
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WHAT??? MS Office is necessary???
by snodinn October 2, 2007 7:18 PM PDT
What a crappy suite of programs! I have to teach it and bite my tongue often throughout the day. It is about as intuitive as a rock. I learned on WordPerfect, and in my mind WordPerfect is a far superior program. But with that said . . . Many governments in the world are switching to Open Office. I tell my students to download Open Office if they do not already have MS Office. Open Office appears to be a very good program, and I will be lobbying the Canadian Government to quit wasting money and switch to Open Office. I would far rather be teaching Open Office then an overinflated, bloated error ridden suite like MS Office no matter what the version.
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We should all Choose Open Source Programs
by Bocifius October 2, 2007 7:21 PM PDT
Let's get rid of the worldwide Microsoft monopoly. I've been using Open Office for years and it's getting better everytime. Try the new 2.3 version put these last few days. In a country where more than 50 million people can't have health insurance, how the hell can they afford Vista and Microsoft Office. Remember that the internet was supposedly made for everybody, not only for Bill Gates profits!
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Office of the future ?
by Texian13 October 2, 2007 8:11 PM PDT
I've been an expert user of spreadsheet, database and document software since i started with Excel 2.1d in 1983.
At that time Lotus and Wordperfect had 90+ percent of the business market.
It wasn't long after Excel and Word hit the market that Lotus, Wordperfect, Dr. Wang's processor, Supercalc and all the granddaddy Visicalc dried up and sank.
The reason was two fold. First, the calculations in Lotus were based on imperfect binary math, which gave slighly incorrect answers to calculations like 1/3 + 1/3 + 1/3 = .99999999. Second, the many financial formulas built in were either simplistic, gave inaccurate Boolean replies, or were just not available.
There was a third problem in that Lotus, Wordperfect et al were DOS oriented and never quite got the WYSIWYG beauty of Windows down to the user's satisfaction.
As for Databases, MS Acess so outdistanced the competition (DBII, IBM's Database, and Symphony's spreadsheet data handler) that there was just no comparison.

Regards, Texian13
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Office Suit
by bodhinaval October 2, 2007 8:38 PM PDT
I have been using Open Office org for more than a year now and ditched M$ altogether. To make sure I convert Write documents to pdf when I attach them. Very happy, especially because it would open my former doc files.
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Office of the future?
by Texian13 October 2, 2007 8:49 PM PDT
Although I have been retired for 12 years now, from 1983 to 1995 I was responsible for advising a large legal, tax organization on their needs for wordprocessing, speadsheets, small data handlers, and presention software.

When I started, Lotus commanded the spreadsheet market, Wordperfect the word processing, and DBII the small database market.

As soon as MS Word, Access and Excel hit the market, all the above pieces of software began to unravel and die.

There were sound reasons this happened, and those reasons persist to this day.

First, the software before the MS offerings were based in DOS and that caused two problems. One fundamental flaw was that calculations in DOS programs were done in Binary math and that caused subtle but none the less errors in certain calculations. For example, a SUM of 1 divided by 3 in three seperate cells came out to be .99999999 instead of 1.
Therefore a boolean such as IF(Cell1 + Cell 2 +Cell 3 = 1, do this, ELSE do that) would react incorrectly.

Second, Lotus, Word Perfect, DBII, Supercalc and grandaddy Visicalc were not able to match the WYSIWYG preciseness and flexibility to rearrange that WORD, Access, Excel, pardon the pun excelled at. They tried to make the switch to Windows, but it was too little too late and they just faded away (rather quickly).

I have just finished trying to use the Google "Office" download. It is amateurish looking and works in a less that intuitive manner. Looking to HELP (there is no manual) is an adventure in some of the most vague hard to understand instructions I have ever seen.

My conclusion is that no professional organization is going to accept this crap, and very few casual users are going to be able to master the mechanics and techniques needed for even simple tasks.

regards, Texian13
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Excel 2007 major calculation bug
by aed49 October 4, 2007 5:42 AM PDT
If you are concerned about the accuracy of your calculations, then be careful with Excel 2007 -- until they fix the bug in the program, I would keep a calculator handy.
The death of Lotus et al...
by greenew October 5, 2007 2:42 PM PDT
You state (correctly) that Lotus and other competing products failed to keep up.

I'll give you a hint why. Microsoft gave away Word/Excel to undermine there competitors (Small Buisness Edition).

Potential customers figured at the time 'Why buy Lotus when Excel is 'free'. This was the effect Microsoft was looking for, and it drove there competitors out of buisness.

Off course, Microsoft is now on the receiving end, where users are now examining Open Office and others and saying 'Why pay for MS Office when I can get OO for free?'.

I whish them (MS) nothing but pain.
Microsoft office
by tim howard October 2, 2007 8:53 PM PDT
With regard your recent comments, yes we do rely heavily on this product for our day to day running of the business. In fact I find tasks works quite well as an option to a CRM system. However it anoys us somewhat that it is still advertised with the online calander sharing option, but in fact Miccrosoft removed this service some time ago. What would you suggest as a user friendly alternative, as my business partner & I both run things from our respective offices at home, but can't view each others bookings when trying to schedule meets with clients etc.
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OpenOffice - far superior!!
by KRCE October 2, 2007 9:12 PM PDT
I have been using OpenOffice for what seems like years. It is leagues above the capabilities of MS Word! The draw function is by far my favorite and I have actually published many posters and even website designs from this function.
I would be very happy if OpenOffice took over the market, but for now I will keep saving in .doc format and pdf-ing all my documents before they are sent via e-mail.

I would love to see what the creators of OpenOffice and StarOffice could do with an e-mail program!!
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With the Vista Mess--We want non-Microsoft product
by DeaverB October 2, 2007 9:35 PM PDT
How can there be a question? Quickbooks XP won't work on Vista; Office "lurks" in the background of PCs with it, so programs with "default" links to your word processor are bamboozled--purposefully.

Microsoft has gotten very tough on backward compatibility--less on Vista than ever. Ugly.

So any avoidance of Microsoft preserves your peace of mind, investment in your software products, and helps the "other guys" so Microsoft doesn't get even tougher.
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WordPerfect still my choice.
by brian1951 October 2, 2007 10:13 PM PDT
I still rely on WordPerfect Suite. Many of the shipping and after market macros are fast customizable. Two big pluses Word macro viruses don't effect WordPerfect macros. Also, the macros that build legal documents are very useful even for non legal applications.
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MarinerPak is my choice
by markmad22 October 2, 2007 10:20 PM PDT
Mariner Software has a bundle that I've used for years called the MarinerPak. It's
Mac only, it has the features I want, not the features Microsoft _thinks_ I want,
and it's cheap (under $80). Worth a look.

www.marinersoftware.com
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virus with Lotus Symphony download from IBM
by mgsheinin October 2, 2007 10:22 PM PDT
McAfee found the following virus when I attempted to download Lotus Symphony from IBM via the link from download.com: W32/Nuwar.dam.
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