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August 21, 2007 2:50 PM PDT

My browser can beat up your browser

by Peter Butler
Firefox, IE, Opera, and Avant Browser(Credit: Clockwise: Mozilla Foundation, Microsoft, Avant Force, Opera Software)

Last week's post about Living with Windows XP generated a virtual storm of comments. Most readers echoed my own personal notion of sticking with XP for the near future instead of upgrading to Windows Vista.

It's not surprising that a discussion about operating systems can arouse empassioned responses. After all, it's the most essential software many of us run. The only other current candidate for king of software apps is the mighty Web browser.

I've been thinking about browsers lately, as well as my allegiance to Mozilla Firefox as my personal surfing weapon of choice. With the amount of customization and third-party add-ons, the open-source browser is extremely tough to beat.

However, I'm not so wedded to Firefox that I won't use other browsers. I have Internet Explorer, Opera, Avant Browser, Flock, and Songbird all installed on various machines, and I use them all regularly. I've even got Safari in case I need to check out iPhone-only apps without an iPhone.

I often use IE7 for certain Web applications or sometimes when I want to view a page full-screen (as long as it renders correctly). Opera is fast for me, and I like fast. I'll often run it in conjunction with Firefox when I need to load a large batch of sites. Avant Browser is an interesting variation on IE7 that uses the same layout engine with a lighter system footprint and a variety of unique features.

Flock--a browser that connects with social-networking services--and Songbird--a music player/browser hybrid--are interesting apps that build off Firefox's XUL engine, but both need a bit more development before I'd use either as my default.

What's your browser of choice and why? Would you ever switch? Tell me about it in the comments.

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1 Fire + 1 Fox = Firefox
by napolean2k August 21, 2007 4:34 PM PDT
0 Internet + 0 Explorer = none or 0 .!
1 Fire + 1 Fox = Firefox.
I do love my second calculation, since I discover firefox all I want is to uninstall IE (impossible). Firefox, is full of plugins, themes, addons. tabbes browsing a very long time ago, its quite fast 4 me. and even when something fails to open (correctly) in firefox theres "IE Tab" plugin 4 saving me of wasting tons of memory opening IE.
the other ones ?? sorry, but theres no space 4 them in my Pc and/or life.
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K-Meleon is really fast...
by AOwL August 21, 2007 4:41 PM PDT
My first choice right now is K-Meleon. It's the fastest browser that I have tried. A little harder to configure than most others. The second browser I use is Firefox. I also use Opera, IE7 and IE6 (just to check webpages so they display right)
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I stick with maxthon
by kyac August 21, 2007 4:42 PM PDT
I dont know why cnet have always forgot maxthon. IE7 machine, many addons just as firefox, many options, great blocker, always render fast, etc. etc. Maxthon is the best. Beats avast with one hand in the back.

I advice you to check it and trash away firefox, opera and netscape.

i cant belive Cnet haven't seen this GREAT software...
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thumbs up for Maxthon
by jimarjoram August 21, 2007 5:43 PM PDT
totally agree - I use it all the time (and occasionally Firefox just to stick to MS)
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Firefox browser problems
by schwaber August 21, 2007 4:49 PM PDT
I use Firefox as my only browser (since v.1.3) and until recently it was the greatest thing since sliced bread. However, since upgrading to v.2.0.0.4 and higher, it is not compatible with any of the mapping services (google maps, virtual earth, etc.) in that I get tiled maps separated by half-inch grey areas rather than a seamless map, with no apparent way to fix this, and the address labels on the map no longer have the pointer to the particular address. Also, every page with a photo takes around 40-50 seconds to load, so if the site has 10 or 12 pictures, I can't see these without dedicating 10 or 15 minutes to the project. FF tells me it is using javascript, and I have updated my java to the latest release with no effect on either of these two problems. When I use IE Tab to switch to viewing these sites (both maps and the photos) everything works much better (although there still is a problem with the web page's internal link to google maps (in this instance, I have the pointer on the address overlay but no map, just grey area. FYI, these problems are rampant on any of the real estate for sale websites I go to.

Seems to me that somewhere along the line someone at Mozilla has dropped the ball.
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Opera and Firefox
by japan3 August 21, 2007 4:50 PM PDT
Opera performs extremely well and you are right it is extremely fast. I love that. I love Firefox because there are so many add-on choices and it works very, very well.

1. Firefox 2. Opera 3. Avant 4. Safari 5. IE7 6. Everything else
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SBC/s browser is not so bad
by lcomer August 21, 2007 4:52 PM PDT
Since I went with SBC high speed internet, they have their own browser that is married to AT&T/yahoo. Its not a bad browser and does have good security features, but lacks some details with browsers such as firefox or opera. Maybe you could test it sometime.
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Maxthon Best By Far!
by JeffreyLeeRussell August 21, 2007 4:54 PM PDT
If you want utility and simplicity, then Maxthon is far and away the best browser I have ever used. The tabbed interface includes "groups" that handles sets of tabbed websites that you configure as you wish. Maxthon handles this much more elegantly thatn anything else I've seen. You can easily add new tabs and save new tabs to any group you wish. It may not have all of the add-ons as FireFox, but it does yeoman's work with simplicity. Also, with a simple click you can turn on and off pop-up blockers vs. going into configuration menus. Check it out.
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Thumbs up for Maxthon
by jimarjoram August 21, 2007 5:40 PM PDT
I use it too and love it. There's a heap of plugins for it including a nice little one that allows you to switch to IE rendering if something doesn't look right.
Favorite Browser
by vic1mar2 August 21, 2007 4:55 PM PDT
My favorite browser is called SlimBrowser and I like it because of one thing and that one thing is the Autologin feature that I use for my different e-mail address.
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Win. XP Corp. Edition
by custom_1597535 August 21, 2007 4:56 PM PDT
Win. XP Corp. Edition. Why? Because it's the only operating system I use and I'm satisfied with it.
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As For Bowsers
by custom_1597535 August 21, 2007 4:59 PM PDT
Mozilla Firefox. It's simple and easy to use. (Well for me it is.)
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My browser is Firefox
by rickagun August 21, 2007 5:02 PM PDT
Occasionally I use IE7 when Firefox and adwatch won't let something through but if I forget and leave it I will invariably get something that pops up to remind me I need to reactivate adwatch. Firefox is definitely faster and gets the job done for me...haven't tried the others.

The other issue is updates. IE can drive you crazy trying to keep up.
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Worst Browser
by jazznoir August 21, 2007 5:08 PM PDT
AOL for Mac uses Netscape; it's unbelievably horrible, the worst ever. Slow, w/ poor connectivity. AOL and Apple apparently don't care.
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What about Slim Browser?
by SteveK51 August 21, 2007 5:08 PM PDT
My browser of choice is Slim Browser. I realize that this might not be considered a separate browser
because of the need to have IE installed.

The utility of not having to type www. or .com is something I love, as well as the quick-search menu.

I also believe that Slim Browser has got the tab situation set better than all the others.
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Its better with the Butterfly.
by KSevek August 21, 2007 5:09 PM PDT
I use IE7, Firefox and MSN Explorer. I prefer MSN Explorer, espicially for my email. I use Firefox primarily to sign in to alternative email user names. My cookies from MSN and IE7 are not "saved" in Firefox. I can log in to different accounts in different browsers at the same time, as long as they are not the same browser.
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Avant Browser Is Really Nice
by wasnot August 21, 2007 5:12 PM PDT
I really like all the features. Since it's built around IE, it goes everywhere. Besides pop-ups you can block whatever, flash, images, adverts on My Yahoo Mail which I even pay for(BOOOO!!!),etc...It has a few quirks, but what doesn't?
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IE7 verses firefox
by Mankarlen August 21, 2007 5:15 PM PDT
I ahd firefox was put on by my mcomputer tech tryed it found IE7 search engines were better so got rid of firefox
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Browser of choice.
by rschan August 21, 2007 5:18 PM PDT
I use OPERA all the time because I like to have the display to fill the whole screen. I need this ability to zoom out text and graphic at the same time as my eyesight is not as good as before. I also like the fact that OPERA does no have advertisement.

I would use FIREFOX more if it also has this zoom out ability. Unfortunately, it can onlyu increase the font size.
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mozilla firefox
by whitewabbit August 21, 2007 5:18 PM PDT
firefox is the best....a no brainer....what with all the add-ons,plug-ins....not to mention loads of skins.
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Do I have to end my love affair...
by inshadeoftree August 21, 2007 5:25 PM PDT
...with Firefox...if my new system has MS Vista on it...I really want the simple life,turn it on and it works. Has anyone had trouble with this combination...worried Doug
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Maxthon or Firefox
by jimarjoram August 21, 2007 5:36 PM PDT
I have used Maxthon for the last couple of years as my browser of choice. Firefox is next on the list. My only gripe with Firefox is, as an instructional designer, it doesn't always render as IE does and I have to design for the lowest common demoninator - IE.

Maxthon uses the IE engine but adds most of the goodies Firefox has, is very customisable and has a heap of neat plugins - definitely worth checking out.
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