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August 10, 2009 3:19 PM PDT

Windows 7 jump lists come to Chrome

by Seth Rosenblatt
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Google Chrome fans who live on the edge and use the developer's build now get access to one of the best features in Windows 7. Browser jump-list access had previously been limited only to Internet Explorer, but Chrome version 3.0.197.11 supports it.

Jump lists in Windows 7 for Internet Explorer 8 (left) and Google Chrome 3.0.197.11 (right).

(Credit: Screenshot by Seth Rosenblatt/CNET)

The jump list, accessible by right-clicking on the Chrome taskbar icon or by holding down the left mouse button and dragging, mimics the Internet Explorer jump list. What IE calls "Frequent", Chrome labels "Most Visited Sites", but both merely show your most frequently visited Web sites. Both lists of URLs are configurable, so you can remove sites from the list.

Below the frequency list is a short list of tasks. Chrome again copies IE here, offering a quick start link to open a new private browsing window. Where IE offers a link to open a new tab, though, Chrome curiously offers a link to open a new browsing window.

Google continues to lay the groundwork for the stable version of Chrome on other operating systems, too. Mac users of the dev build, which has been updated to version 3.0.197.12 for them, now get extensions enabled by default. Linux users, meanwhile, should no longer find Chrome crashing when reading their Gmail.

The developer's build of Chrome can be downloaded directly or enabled using the Chrome Channel Changer.

Seth peers into the deep, dark corners of software so that you don't have to. He has yet to suffer a single nightmare about OS/2. You can follow him on Twitter.

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by XtC4UaLL August 10, 2009 4:11 PM PDT
FYI, MoCo is working on an implementation on this (and other Windows 7 specific) feature for Firefox too: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=473045 (and dependencies)
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by Havoc70 August 10, 2009 4:13 PM PDT
Chrome is AWESOME ! I will never go back to IE, NEVER i say
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by BogusBasin August 11, 2009 7:53 AM PDT
That's because IE is complete garbage. In fact, it is five times slower than the fastest browser. And then there's Windows. Win7 improves upon Vista but still trails Mac OSX when browsing the web. Microsoft - where do you want to go EVENTUALLY.

Amen

http://www.electronista.com/articles/09/08/10/macs.faster.on.web/
by FANAT1C August 11, 2009 8:10 AM PDT
@BogusBasin

How ignorant are u?
http://www.pcworld.com/zoom?id=168623&page=1&zoomIdx=1
IE 8 is faster on average than safari 4. Not to mention the OS X is horrible for multi-threading and the flash on macs cannot use the hardware as powerfully as in windows. oh wait, u must be one of those people who have never really used a PC and just got drawn into the apple propaganda.
by BogusBasin August 11, 2009 8:56 AM PDT
@FANAT1C

Or I could be an IT professional with 13 years experience 40 hours per week all on the Windows platform. Ouch. Burn.
Sorry for making you look ignorant. MS is garbage. IE is garbage. But you sure can make a livin' off 'em!

Amen
by BogusBasin August 11, 2009 8:58 AM PDT
@FANAT1C
Oh, and I can't tell from your link, but I think your test results are all on Windows. Sorry. Nice try.

Amen
by Lennron August 11, 2009 9:41 AM PDT
@BogusBasin

I'm an IT Professional too. Only with 11 years experience 40 hours per week, but on Windows, Mac, and a few Linux platforms, not just Windows.
Have you ever actually ran an updated Windows machine vs. an updated Mac with the same specs on the same network? If you have and you still think MS or IE is garbage than you are basing it purely on opinion and no factual data. On every network, every computer, and every version I've worked on, IE runs faster than Safari on nearly every website. And Windows runs nearly every program faster and usually more efficiently, including Photoshop which everyone seems to think HAS to be run on a Mac for some reason. Not to mention thousands of programs are not compatible with Mac.
Most Linux systems we've ran can be competitive with Windows. And both Firefox and Chrome seem to run just as fast as IE. But Apple products always fall short and Macs cost too much to put up with all the headaches.
By the way... does putting "Amen" at the end of your posts mean you're also talking to God, or do you think it somehow makes you more credible?
by BogusBasin August 11, 2009 10:25 AM PDT
@Lennron

Yeah. You're very credible. Except that I posted a link to a source to back up my claim. You are just paying lip service to hear yourself.

@Seaspray

Sticks and stones

Amen
by BogusBasin August 11, 2009 10:29 AM PDT
Macs cost too much:

Lenovo =====================Apple
2.4Ghz =====================2.26Ghz
WinVista Ultimate =============Mac OSX Ultimate
12.1 glossy screen ===========13 glossy screen
Intel graphics 4500mhd ========NVIDIA 9400M 256MB
160GB HDD =================160GB HDD
2GB Ram ===================2GB Ram
$1239 =====================$1194 (Throw in $100 rebate and it's $1094)

http://shop.lenovo.com/SEUILibrary/controller/e/web/LenovoPortal/en_US/systemconfig.runtime.workflow:LoadRuntimeTree?sb=:00000025:00001CCF:&smid=6194D04805DF4296B0D1A64481A943A4

http://macmall.com/ttsvr/n/macNavLinks-305?q=7836991

So much for the Apple tax. Burn. Thanks for playing!

Amen
by wojx August 11, 2009 10:43 AM PDT
Yeah, well I'm the boss.
by Seaspray0 August 11, 2009 11:06 AM PDT
@bogusbasin. It only works when you choose both laptop. Lets even this up. I'll pick a laptop on the PC side and I'll let you chose the apple model you wish to compare against it. I'd like to do a PC model I just purchased. I'll even be nice and let you pick any one of the three base versions of the dell studio 15 from this page....
http://www.dell.com/us/en/home/notebooks/laptop-studio-1555/pd.aspx?refid=laptop-studio-1555&s=dhs&cs=19

Now you can pick any apple laptop computer you wish to compare it against. Let me know, ok?
by Lennron August 11, 2009 11:23 AM PDT
Yes, because I can post a link showing the work that my staff and I do. Nice point.
And yes, Macs do cost too much. Right now i'm on my Dell Optiplex, 2.99GHz, Windows Vista Ultimate, 2 19in HD Flat Panels, NVIDIA GeForce 7300, 120GB HDD, 2GB RAM for $785. And if I feel like changing/upgrading any of those specs, I have the option to do so and quite cheaply, unlike Macs.
"Burn."
You want a link? http://www.dell.com
Go build yourself a real computer.

Amen
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by PacGamer August 10, 2009 4:29 PM PDT
Great job Chrome. I will continue to use Firefox for all of the extensions that I use everyday. i just hope Mozilla is working on a jump list fix.
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by eltoro2827 August 10, 2009 4:33 PM PDT
Chrome suxs...freezes too much....will never use it again.
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by RQuadlingGotItWrong August 14, 2009 2:20 AM PDT
The only time I've had Chrome freeze on me is when it is trying to load Java apps. But then Windows always freezes for me when I load Java apps. Java on Windows has always been slow for me.

I like Chrome for its speed. I've not tried the new FF 3.5 properly, though I use it for development (FireBug is essential).

Maybe a newer release of Chrome would work better.

Of course, the sites you are visiting could have something to do with that!
by Mr. Dee August 10, 2009 5:03 PM PDT
Who says Microsoft does not innovate?
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by Philips August 10, 2009 5:20 PM PDT
"Most Visited" was a special bookmark in FireFox since 3.x

Putting user configurable bookmark into system menu was first done under Mac OS X by Safari (since system menu is much more accessible in the OS).

Nothing new really. But considering development of IE by MS (if the stagnation can be called a "development"), that's surely a huge advancement.
by monkeyfun14 August 10, 2009 5:32 PM PDT
@Philips

Innovate != Invent
by shane--2008 August 10, 2009 5:45 PM PDT
my god your right! such innovation!

http://arstechnica.com/apple/guides/2009/02/safari-4-focus-top-sites-browser-in-a-nutshell.ars

its like tope sites! but without the visual preview and update that make it useful!

brilliant!!!
by mbenedict August 10, 2009 11:01 PM PDT
You ignorant Mac fanboys crack me up.

"Jump list" is a feature of Windows 7 that's integrated into the Task Bar. It's not a browser-only function, although browsers like IE and Chrome can provide enhanced support for it (such as showing commonly used commands). But any app from your media players to Photoshop can show recent documents in their taskbar jump lists. Even Excel, Word, Outlook, etc, will have custom jump lists. No doubt even iTunes will support it in the future.

In any case, Microsoft previewed this functionality in an alpha build of Win7 almost a year ago, so it far pre-dates Safari 4.
by Seaspray0 August 11, 2009 9:48 AM PDT
All the companies copy stuff from each other. Why should it be any different here?
by mjconver August 10, 2009 5:22 PM PDT
No Adblock Plus == No Chrome
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by ngngokkiu August 10, 2009 9:57 PM PDT
AdBlock+ for Chrome

http://userscripts.org/scripts/show/46974

To use:
1. Switch to the dev channel (http://dev.chromium.org/getting-involved/dev-channel)
2. Launch chrome.exe with the --enable-user-scripts flag (add --enable-user-scripts to chrome's shortcut).
3. Create a directory called User Scripts in your user data directory

Windows XP: \Documents and Settings\username\Local Settings\Application Data\Google\Chrome\User Data\Default
Windows Vista: \Users\username\AppData\Local\Google\Chrome\User Data\Default

4. Copy 46974.user.js to the script directory.
5. Restart Chrome, press Alt+B to choose ads to block, Alt+E to edit current blocks
by adayoldbagel August 11, 2009 12:12 AM PDT
what is Adblock Plus? I keep hearing about it, but, if all it does is block ads, why is it so great? Do people seriously find it difficult to simply ignore the stupid things?
by ballmerisanape August 11, 2009 7:41 AM PDT
"what is Adblock Plus? I keep hearing about it, but, if all it does is block ads, why is it so great? Do people seriously find it difficult to simply ignore the stupid things?"

Because ads... especially flash ads.. slow down your browser.
by knowles2 August 11, 2009 12:34 PM PDT
Being honest I fine Firefox runs best with out any extensions at all, even adding adblock seem to slow the browser down more than the adverts do.
by gwailo247 August 10, 2009 6:16 PM PDT
I've got Chrome, Firefox and IE8 on my Windows 7 PC, and I have to say I'm a bit less than enthused about Chrome. I use it as my primary browser, but I definitely have problems compared to when I used it on Vista. It seems to lag a bit, and there are still some sites that I have problems with, sites on which IE8 works fine. Plus there are all the extensions on Firefox that I miss on Chrome.
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by ballmerisanape August 10, 2009 6:32 PM PDT
is this sort of like the application specific right-click menu items the Mac Dock has had for a while? If so... this will be a nice little feature in Win7... especially if the do it as good or better than the Mac Dock. It will be nice to see MSoft's take on this. What they really need, however, is something like Expose'. If there is one thing Windows needs to improve on, ironically, is window management.
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by bananaphonerules August 10, 2009 9:47 PM PDT
Window Management? Have you tried "Snap", "Shake" and "Peek" in Windows 7?
by mbenedict August 10, 2009 11:10 PM PDT
It's much better than Mac Dock's "right-click" menu.

Unlike the Dock, Jump lists are user customizable. For example you can drag-and-drop files, documents, etc., into jump lists. You can "pin" items onto your lists too.

Also on the Mac the dock menu is only there for active applications, whereas Jump lists are available on both the task bar and via the Start menu.
by ballmerisanape August 11, 2009 4:54 AM PDT
mbenedict,

That sound great. I've always liked the menu items from the dock... but always wished they were more flexible... you are limited to what the developer wants to put there. Now there is always "Services" in the Apple menu.. but, again, you are stuck with a limited amount of choices. There are plenty of 3'rd party addons to go crazy with... but this seems like something that should be build-in.

bananaphonerules,

No.. I hadn't..... since it's not really out yet. I'll look into them though.

Another question.. and these are little issues:

I fscking hate fact that you cant put powerpoint or excel documents side by side.. you can only do that with Word... has this changed?

Also.. If you have a dual monitor setup.. can you put a separate background picture on each monitor? It's irritating that XP only allows you to use the same picture on each monitor.


Thanks
by ballmerisanape August 11, 2009 5:02 AM PDT
Ok.. I just checked out the window management features...

Out of those three...

Peek seems useful... but also seems like it's a bit over the top for a simple request. Wouldn't it take up a lot of resources to instantly make all the windows transparent? Why not just move them out of the way.. or just make them disappear (like XP)?

Shake is just ridiculous.. seriously.. I have to shake my mouse? WTH.. what do I do on a laptop?

I don't understand why they can't just come up with a simple solution.
by Mitrid August 11, 2009 7:18 AM PDT
OS X has had the same concept as a Jump list for a while in the doc right clicking on an icon in the doc provides with a list of application specific tasks, so for example in iTunes you can move to the next song, pause a song etc. right from the doc. Other application also take advantage of this so its nothing new. Move on.
by ballmerisanape August 11, 2009 7:46 AM PDT
Mitrid,

I've made the same point.. but as mbenedict pointed out .. the jump menu is more flexible. While you can create custom "Start Menus" in the dock by putting shortcuts in a folder.. and then placing that folder in the Dock.. and Mac apps have right click menus.. you cannot modify the application right click menus in the Mac dock.

I'm sure the new Window's taskbar and the Mac dock will shine in their own ways. Anything is an improvement from the XP taskbar... and the Mac dock is getting pretty stagnant.... lets hope Snow Leopard adds a little more functionality.
by Seaspray0 August 11, 2009 10:49 AM PDT
It also depends on what version you get and what you consider "managment" (your definition may vary from mine). If you have the professional or better version of windows, you can use a microsoft management console to snapin just about any management feature you wish. I can pretty much run an entire domain from a single console with multiple snappins. One console, thousands of settings.
by goodspeed8701 August 10, 2009 11:00 PM PDT
Its good that softwares are now jump list capable. I don't use chrome but I am happy to see this feature. I use mediaplayer most times but I also use vlc player that has this feature for long now. I hope to see more.
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by kaeizr August 11, 2009 4:04 AM PDT
is this only for Windows 7 RTM?

im using RC,
i have chrome 3.0.197.11 but jump lists are not appearing in the taskbar..
any ways to fix it?
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by kaeizr August 11, 2009 4:05 AM PDT
oh it is now. thanks anyway. :)
by magvine August 11, 2009 10:49 AM PDT
I think anyone who is going to defend IE 8 needs to spend some time using it first. I have it running on the Win 7RC and it is horrible. It crashes A LOT, and renders pages oddly at times. I really don't care what brand my browser is as long as it works (which is why I usually leave IE as defult), but IE 8 isn't worth the headache.
Chrome taking advantage of more of what 7 has built into it could make me switch, but Chrome's UI isn't appealing, and Firefox is just plain monsterous.
I prefer Microsoft for a lot of products, but browsing the internet...they still haven't figured it out. (To their defense, I wonder if it's not IE's fault, but bad web site developers...)
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by Seaspray0 August 11, 2009 11:11 AM PDT
From my experience with IE8, I prefer IE7 more. I do like the added features, but I to have experienced the same issues. I will give it a try again after a few months worth of patches. Maybe they'll have it running better by then.
by lennie22 August 12, 2009 10:00 AM PDT
I use IE8 as my primary browser on Win7. I haven't had a crash on IE8 since I start using it and I use it a lot. plus each tabs are "sandboxed" so if one tab is giving problems and somehow freezes you can just close that tab and the other tabs are still running just fine.

the fact that you say it crashes a lot seems out of place to me.....
by jpap93 August 12, 2009 4:56 AM PDT
Yeah, chrome is great. Damn, it has a slight bug. Not fully CSS compliant. Fail.
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by EvanSei August 12, 2009 11:59 PM PDT
just finished downloading the chrome dev. figure I will take it for a spin
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by byakuya7 August 13, 2009 2:21 AM PDT
@BogusBasin

Are you an Apple employee? If not shut up.
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