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July 27, 2009 9:37 AM PDT

The good and bad of Google Latitude on iPhone

by Josh Lowensohn
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Last week Google released a Web app version of Latitude, its geolocation-based social tracking service. At Apple's request, Google made it a Web app instead of a native app that required installation. This isn't an entirely bad thing as I found out after extended use this weekend. There's a lot to like, and some that's not so great. Here's the breakdown:

The good:
• Simple service to use. If you've got it set to automatically refresh your location you just have to fire it up from a bookmark, or home screen shortcut and you're done.
• You can keep it running in a browser tab while you're doing things in other tabs. It's almost like running multiple applications at once!
• Works in both portrait and landscape modes. And what's impressive about landscape mode, is that you can still drag your finger around the map without scrolling the rest of the page.
• Really granular control over who can see where you are and what you're doing. Right down to a per-friend level.
• Turn-by-turn driving directions in your browser.

The bad:
Safari-only, which means no push notifications, full-screen user interface, or special sounds.
• Missing some of Google Maps' bells and whistles including things like public transportation and walking directions. And no Street View of course.
• Slightly sluggish performance when compared to the Google Maps app. Filling out forms, and response when clicking on a button can be a bit delayed. Might just be our old, chugging iPhone 3G though.

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Originally posted at Web Crawler
Josh Lowensohn writes for Webware.com, CNET's blog about Web applications and services. E-mail Josh, or follow him on Twitter at http://www.twitter.com/Josh.
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by Gonzie July 27, 2009 10:54 AM PDT
I'm sure Apple will be working on integrating this into their Maps application, just like they have with most of the google map services
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by sting7k July 27, 2009 10:58 AM PDT
Why isn't the story about the reason for Apple asking Google to make it a web app? <br /> <br />Perhaps future releases will have it built into the native Google Maps app.
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by Josh.Lowensohn July 27, 2009 11:01 AM PDT
We already did a story on that: http://news.cnet.com/8301-13579_3-10295121-37.html?tag=mncol;txt
by thelemurking July 27, 2009 12:56 PM PDT
Apple thinks you are a moron and too stupid to determine the difference between Maps and Latitude. So they don't want to 'confuse' people with having Latitude as an app or service. <br /><br />It's amazing how little bad press Apple gets for that. If any other company basically insinuated that it's entire userbase was a bunch of idiots unable to distinguish apps and services, the world would be outraged... Apple always gets a free base.<br /><br />Case in point, when Apple "asked" Google not to incorporate multitouch into Android and it's still not available even in the Android donut beta release. If Microsoft asked Google not to do something, the Apple trolls would be out in full force... but again, it's acceptable when Apple does it.
by poopermaker July 27, 2009 5:24 PM PDT
"If Microsoft asked Google not to do something, the Apple trolls would be out in full force... but again, it's acceptable when Apple does it." -LOL You really need to get away from the computer and out more. It's not persona,l it's business. The idea is to make money for your company. And if you can get away with taking some of the competitions bottom line, even better!
by ddesy July 28, 2009 6:04 AM PDT
Hey thelemurking,<br /><br />This really isn't an Apple only thing but rather the dumbing down of technology in general. Verizon seems to put requirements in place that insinuate that people using at least some of the smartphones they carry are "a bunch of idiots."
by thelemurking July 28, 2009 7:06 AM PDT
alright Mr. Poopermaker, just how is Apple going to make money for their business by telling Google not to release Latitude as a native app? Does Apple plan on selling their own version of Latitude? Oh wait, If there was a native app that did push updates in the background, I wouldn't need to pay $99 a year for MobileMe to locate my phone if I lost it. AHHHH! Now it makes perfect sense! Apple wants to rape me out of more cash just in case I lost my phone. <br /><br />I can see from Apple's standpoint why MultiTouch on other devices would be bad! That would take away from it's allure. 'Please Google, don't use that one thing that makes our phone so special cause then people might be more tempted to buy your phone than ours' Google is big enough to where they don't need to be pushed around and bullied by Apple. Google should just go ahead and enable MultiTouch for Android!<br /><br />It's a shame that Apple runs the app store like a bunch of over zealous nazis, acting as our moral police! Can't have an app that shows boobies are talks about sex, but yet you can buy that in the movie and music side of iTunes.
by whordan July 27, 2009 11:06 AM PDT
Does this actually keep running in Safari when the app is closed or if you are using a different page?
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by Josh.Lowensohn July 27, 2009 12:44 PM PDT
No, you have to go back to that tab. <br /><br />Safari basically suspends each open tab and will only keep its content in the local memory until it needs to be used by something else (typically another open tab). That's why if you switch between two tabs during different page loads its content will still be there, whereas if you start doing some heavy surfing on one tab, and come back a little later, that first tab needs to reload.
by stokedawg July 27, 2009 11:20 AM PDT
While I'm finally glad to see latitude on the iPhone, it's still sub-par. It's only accurate to the nearest dozen city blocks or so...looks like it's using cell tower data and not actual GPS. Lame.
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by Josh.Lowensohn July 27, 2009 12:46 PM PDT
Really? I got it to put me in the right the correct city block more than a dozen different locations this weekend. It could definitely depend on where you are though. I'm in SF.
by thelemurking July 27, 2009 12:52 PM PDT
It's been accurate within a block or two for me about 90% of the time, but just like the Maps app, sometimes it thinks I am a few blocks away. If I see my position in Latitude as being off a few blocks, then it's like 99% certain that Maps will think I am in that same spot a few blocks off. So I don't blame Latitude for that one.
by cvaldes1831 July 27, 2009 2:18 PM PDT
Don't blame Latitude, it uses the native location-based services. Latitude is as accurate as Google Maps (or the MapQuest app, or any number of location-based apps like Brightkite, foursquare, etc.).<br /><br />I have an iPod touch which only has WiFi. WiFi triangulation is more accurate with more nearby WAPs, but it's usually quite accurate in the metropolitan SF Bay Area and some of the other places I've travelled to with my iPod touch (like L.A.).<br /><br />It sounds like Apple's location-based services is having a problem pinpointing the locations you're visiting based on cellular tower triangulation. I don't know how commonplace this problem is, but I don't really hear about it in this forum or others, so perhaps it's a glitch in your area.<br /><br />I've had location-based services flip out a couple of times putting me about two miles away or for about a week it was relocating me someplace in the Midwest (like Kansas).
by Benf July 27, 2009 6:24 PM PDT
On my Bold I can tell which side of my house I am standing, it's accurate to within 30 feet or so, it updates far too slowly though, the update interval depends on the battery level, full battery= more frequent position updates
by antuan.goodwin July 28, 2009 5:18 PM PDT
I can actually get the web app to be accurate within a block on my iPod Touch here in San Francisco, which doesn't have a cellular antenna or GPS, but I have to actually be connected to wi-fi to use it which is a shortcoming of the iPod Touch to begin with. That being said, it's about as accurate as any other app that I've tested.<br /><br />If I'm not mistaken, web app uses whatever location info that it can, whether that's GPS, cell tower or Wi-Fi triangulation. The iPhone/iPod Touch itself ultimately decides which of these three methods is most accurate at any given time.
by jakemochas August 1, 2009 6:42 PM PDT
I have it on my blackberry bold built into my google maps application... It helps a lot with live tracking (especially while hiking)... If apple integrates it in, it will be a stellar app
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by natfriedman August 2, 2009 6:51 PM PDT
I've written a script which solves the background auto update problem. You can get it here:<br /><br />http://nat.org/blog/2009/08/playnice-google-apple<br /><br />You need to run it on a server; it will fetch your iPhone location from MobileMe and post it to Google Latitude automatically.<br /><br />The iPhone updates MobileMe with its location continuously for the 'Find My iPhone' feature.
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by tjaja August 11, 2009 4:47 AM PDT
i prefer an app like http://u.nu/8scr and all its rich possibilities that i just haven't got the time to explain.
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