July 24, 2009 2:00 PM PDT
Windows 7 RTM: First Take and video
Although the look of Windows 7 may seem to be nothing more than some polish and elbow grease applied liberally to the Vista Aero theme, make no mistake: this is a full replacement operating system, and more than just "Vista done right." From driver support to multitouch groundwork for the future, from better battery management to the most user-friendly interface Microsoft has ever had, Windows 7 is hardly half-baked.
Check out the CNET First Take on Windows 7, and our product spotlight video on the left, for in-depth analysis of what you can expect in Microsoft's latest operating system.
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He likes Linux also,mainly as it is free but where I can I buy him 'educational' matter I will as he just never stops learning. I have him onto the Tech Tracker dl today which has helped me already,cheers,Norm.
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Also, I've read that Windows7 will not be as customizable as earlier versions, but nowhere have I found exactly what its limitations are so I am wondering if that is even true.
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Its the same thing every time and its always wrong. Perhaps waiting until its released and reviewed should you worry about it before running a long What If scenario.
Windows 7 comes loaded with all the stuff that I hated most about Vista and then some. Since I installed it earlier today there's little difference between Vista and 7 except for the fancy new task bar which is a step backwards from Windows 98. The Start Menu is so rigid I can't set it up in Classic mode which was far quicker and more intuitive than the new forced design. For example, in classic mode in Vista, I can see all 120 or so programs expanded to the right of the start menu when I mouse over Programs. In 7 Classic mode is not an option so they're all jammed into a very small bar for me to scroll through. It only expands to 600px or so, half the height of my screen!
Fortunately I've gotten every program to work so far including Office 2007, all my Adobe CS4 Programs, AVG, etc. My Firepod external firewire sound card even works after a little tweaking.
There have been a few bugs with 7 already, including a major system crash which unexpectedly restarted my PC and then hung my PC at its bios until I unplugged all hard drives and plugged them back in one at a time with a reboot between each one. This is especially scary now that I know 7 might be messing with my hard drives in the background and might wipe one of them out without warning.
7 came with the new IE 8 beta which is a step backwards from IE 5. Unbelievable they're getting worse at the browser when everyone around them is getting better (except Safari which is failcore 5000). Fortunately they've abandoned their "rating" default details view item and added a dynamic desktop background concept they stole from OSX, but those are probably the only advancements over Vista I've found so far.
Did you know that 32-bit Windows 7 STILL only supports up to 3.2 GB of RAM?! Come on MS let me use my bleeping RAM!!! I'm maxed out every time I do web dev and Photoshop!
I suggest you pull your investments out of Microsoft before they release this POS for sale.
Windows Vista Ultimate x86 remains the best Operating System to date. I admit that lots of things about Vista are terrible, but their advantages over XP make up for their shortcomings, and pretty much any Windows OS since and including Windows 98 is better than any Mac OS ever made so stick with Vista for the time being.
Linux is the only kernel I can think of off the top of my head that offers a 32-bit version with PAE (Physical Address Extension) supporting 32GB of RAM. Other than that you'll have to switch to a 64-bit operating system.
I suppose it's just opinions we're talking about, but in my opinion the W7 task bar blows the old style away. A few slight flicks of the wrist and I've got what I want. It's so much faster, and with much less movement of the mouse. Why do you need everything spread out? I generally know what I want to open when I go to the task bar, and see no real need for full view browsing. Many people are happy about the quickness of using the task bar now, and with good reason.
Windows 7 RC has also been extremely stable for me. I can't even think of any real issues, beyond a few small bugs that will most likely be addressed in the release. I don't use Internet Explorer, so I can't comment on that. My only real problem with W7 is that it's very difficult to dual-boot with some Linux distros; hopefully one side or the other will have that ironed out eventually.
If you need so much RAM for the applications you run, then why are you not on a 64-bit release?
Take a look at programming jobs. Its dominated by either java or Microsoft .net. Thats why companies are willing to pay over $100K for .net developers. Because companies want those products. You may not like it but thats reality. Fight it all you want. People like me, rather than fight it I embraced it and have reaped the rewards even if I don't like most of their products. The ones I like are the ones I care about.
However, that said I never ever install an OS even Xp still without checking my disks very very carefully and clean them up or replace if necessary
and then do a clean install on citting edge hardware It seems unfair to make judgements on a new system if you don't give it a careful A Clean Fair Start you can't be truly objective -ie takes time.
I have been at Electronics since the days of Tubes ie Short-Wave TRF sets built in biscuit tins (so basically I am a hard ware type) Everything old eventually is new again!!
since tubes have gone through single transistors .chips and Stereos >Satellite
Sorry folks Linux I could never manage -likewise I never ever managed Morse Code or I would have at one time added Ham Radio (I know in some cases now not needed)
I think to judge others remarks one must know their experience etc are they a DIY type or what
Microsoft is big and at times I fear does not always think of costs to end users like me who are old geezers with little disposabe cash these days --despite an MD degree after my name Pathologist MD Worst thing that could happen was the Chief tech to inform you at 4:30 pm on a Friday at start of long weekend -the big blood cell counter had broken down -to keep necessary tests on the road for a long weekend > I had to get out the soldering gun and spend my weekend 2000miles from the nearest service center for the equipment and be told step by step what what to do and needed needed . Many of us can become quite good at this We do it without pay!! often the equipent has a well known operating system it uses to calculate its QC and results etc etc -so one learns both about Cell counter results ,the Electronics ,Mechanics and of course Computer systems
What is the difference then between an orange and a lemon??? Answer suck it and see!! Suggest one will need to do this with Windows ver 7 also to make a fair judgement given a reasonable amount of time to live with it and learn I think microsoft is quite user friendly as I see it anyhow my Brain cells seem to get on with it even if I feel sick at the expnse of their Software Good luck to all -hope it turns out really tickety -boo!!!
Dickerydoc1 Newfoundland Canada
Yep all going to be done in the clouds unless you want to pay extra $$$ to buy a desktop program.
All emails are kept in your computer and you can even assign a separate partition directory to store your emails.
In addition, you can use your web mail when away from home and when you get home download it to your client - Windows Live mail.
You are force either to use Windows Live Mail you can use any multi-client mail delivery system that you may want to install on your computer with Win 7.
As far as the comments that you CAN'T upgrade from Windows XP directly to Windows 7, this is the point that many of you are missing. Regarless of the old days when you could, it was because the underlying programing was not so much different.
Because there are so many changes under the hood for Win 7, regarless that many say they aren't and Win 7 is only a cosmetic upgrade, this is not true. MS is making sure, buy not allowing a DIRECT upgrade from Windowx XP, for the user to have a clean system without applications that may interfer with the proper installation of CORE WINDOWS COMPONENTS and / or giving you the opportunity to install properly and then re-install the old applications which most of them will work with Win 7.
It is just that some of you need to understand that the CORE OS, should not have to deal with any misbehaving old applications.
Besides, if you understand the changes under the hood, you most likely will agree that you have to do a clean install from XP.
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- by dmfxxx July 28, 2009 6:24 PM PDT
- That is what I are pointing out in windows 7 it is windows live mail even Thunderbird it is all Web mail not like outlook express or windows mail you still got to install something if you want a desktop application.
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(37 Comments)YOU ARE NOT FORCED - to use Windows Live mail, you can use any multi-client application that you could isntall in Win 7
Windows live mail, Gmail, Hotmail etc is all mail fine for some things but not all I feel it is going to be a security problem waiting to happen.