Firefox 3.5: Excellent for fans, but competition getting tougher
Firefox 3.5 brings the world's second-most popular browser up to speed with current browsing technology and trends, and perhaps nudges it just a bit ahead of the competition. However, it is by no means the leap ahead that its predecessor Firefox 3 was, and it's clear that the competition isn't going away anytime soon.
Available for Windows, Windows Portable, Mac, or Linux, Firefox 3.5 nevertheless represents the best Firefox we've yet seen from Mozilla. This comes as no surprise, and with a testing process that involved four beta builds, three release candidates, and a version change to reflect what Mozilla described as the originally-unintended breadth of the improvements being made, most of the new features are no surprise, either.
Private Browsing, known to IE users as InPrivate, Chrome users as Incognito, and Safari users as, well, Private Browsing, finally comes to a public version of Firefox. It's been available to the 800,000 or so beta testers since December 2008. If you're not familiar with it, users can toggle on or off the browser's history, cookies, and other browsing traces at will via the Tools menu or CTRL+SHFT+P. A new window will open. Among its other uses that serve as fodder for second-rate comedians, it's an excellent tool for avoiding leaving tracks on publicly-used computers and its about time that Firefox finally got it. In fact, Firefox has had it in various stages of development for four years.
I'm not sure how connected Firefox's development of Private Browsing is to this next feature, but I can see far more users gaining traction from having the fine, granular control of browsing tracks that's now available in v3.5. The Clear Private Data window has been replaced by a Clear Recent History option, using the same hot key combo and in the same place in the Tools menu.
Under the Clear Recent History window, you can delete your entire recent browsing history over the past hour, two hours, four hours, today, or all content in your history. From its Details drop-down menu, you can tailor the data purge to Browsing and Download history, Form and Search history, Cookies, Cache, Active Logins, Site Preferences, and Saved Sessions. From within the History window, you can also right-click on a site to Forget this Site, which will remove all instances of that site from your history records. Because your Most Recent Sites folder pulls from your history, you gain this level of control there, too.
Another excellent improvement in v3.5 that pushes Firefox ahead of its competitors is aggressive developer support. This may not sound impressive to most users, and if you're not a developer, I can see why its hard to get worked up about support for CSS media tags, HTML5 local storage, downloadable fonts, Web worker thread, and native JSON support, or SVG transforms--it all sounds a bit too much like alphabet soup.
Firefox 3.5 comes with geo-locating turned on, so it always knows where you are (with your permission.)
(Credit: Screenshot by Seth Rosenblatt/CNET)However, embedded ICC profiles, and support for Ogg Vorbis and Theora video and audio means that image colors will look better and closer to how they were intended, and no plug-in will be required for properly-encoded multimedia. Since Vorbis is open-source, this will lend those formats a huge boost while rendering those pages more stable. Here's an example video from Firefox that offers a tour of the new browser, or you can check out this sample from Daily Motion. Non-Firefox users will either see the Flash version (as on Daily Motion), or be directed to download the OGV file.
The "awesome bar" that debuted in Firefox 3 has become one of my favorite features. I've personalized my browser to eliminate the search bar, and now I use the location bar for all my searching. In v3.5, Mozilla has improved the search functionality so that you can show only bookmarks, by using an asterisk after a query such as "cnet *", or show only tags by using a plus "cnet +".
You can also tear off tabs as you can in the Webkit-based browsers Chrome, Safari, and IE, although unlike those browsers, Firefox's tabs are not sandboxed. This means that, if the browser crashes, you're still hosed, although Mozilla says this feature--known in development as Electrolysis--is being worked on.
In the meantime, Mozilla has imported better session control that users could only get before from add-ons like Session Manager. Now, if Firefox crashes, you get the option to choose which tabs to revive. If a Flash-based or heavy JavaScript site was the cause of that crash, you don't need to bring back that particular tab and risk getting caught in a crash-and-restart cycle of frustration.
Firefox 3.5 natively supports HTML5 and embedded Ogg video content.
(Credit: Screenshot by Seth Rosenblatt/CNET)Mozilla abandoned development of its own geolocating technology in Firefox, but that doesn't mean that Firefox 3.5 doesn't possess the ability to know where you are. Using Google's tech, Firefox can pinpoint where you are so that in search queries, for example, you'll get the most locally relevant results first. Turning this off isn't difficult, either. Under about:config, search for "geo.enabled" and change True to False by double-clicking on it.
Performance has always been one of the keys to browser popularity, and much of Google's success with Chrome can be attributed to its fast JavaScript rendering marks. The resurgent interest in Safari also comes from its JavaScript benchmarks and Apple's claim that Safari is the fastest browser on the market with its Nitro JavaScript engine. Firefox 3.5 doesn't beat them on the JavaScript front, but it's within shooting range.
On a Lenovo T400 laptop with a Core 2 Duo T9400 processor running at 2.53 GHz, with 3 GB of RAM and Windows 7 RC 7100, I ran the SunSpider JavaScript test and Dromaeo's subset of JavaScript tests on Firefox 3.0.11, Firefox 3.5, Internet Explorer 8, Chrome 2, and Safari 4. As much as I like Opera as an all-in-one browser, I left it out because Opera 9.6 hasn't stood up well to the improvements that the field has made in the past year, and Opera 10 beta isn't ready to be compared to public releases at this point. Remember that for SunSpider the lower number is better, while the opposite is true of Dromaeo.
Firefox users can now rip tabs off into new windows, or drag them back into the old one. Still no sandboxing, though.
(Credit: Screenshot by Seth Rosenblatt/CNET)Firefox 3.0.11 completed SunSpider in 2695.4 milliseconds, and 44.22 runs per second, while Firefox 3.5 notched 1319.6 ms on SunSpider and 91.18 runs/s. This falls in line with Mozilla's published benchmarks of 3669 ms for Firefox 3 versus 1524 ms for Firefox 3.5. In both "official" numbers and in my own tests, Firefox 3.5 comes out around twice as fast for JavaScript.
Meanwhile, Chrome 2 hit 322.1 runs/s on Dromaeo and 712.2 ms on SunSpider. Either way, Chrome is significantly faster than Firefox for JavaScript, one-third faster judging by SunSpider and twice as fast by Dromaeo. Safari 4 scored 915.6 on SunSpider and 239.02 runs/s on Dromaeo, slightly slower than the its Webkit cousin Chrome but still faster than Firefox. Internet Explorer marked 4434.6 ms in SunSpider, but crashed on Dromaeo while testing base 64 encoding and decoding.
Firefox 3.5 is around twice as fast as Firefox 3. Chrome and Safari are faster with JavaScript, though.
(Credit: Screenshot by Seth Rosenblatt/CNET)It's important to note that speed is not the only criterion for judging a decent browser. Each browser only had open two tabs, the results of its Dromaeo test and the results of its Safari test. Safari consumed nearly 135 MB of RAM, IE saw 104 MB, Firefox 3.5 hit 66 MB, and Chrome logged 46.5 MB. These results will fluctuate depending on your computer and any other tasks your browser is running at the time, but they give a decent idea of how each browser is performing during these tests.
Other useful tests look at Web standards rendering, like the Acid3, and deeper analysis of the SunSpider results. Chrome and Safari both reach 100/100 on the Acid3 test, while Firefox makes it to 93/100. Official release notes for Firefox 3.5 can be read here.
Firefox 3.5 is a much-needed improvement to the world's most popular alternative browser. At the time of writing, Mozilla was about to log the 2 millionth download after only 7 1/2 hours. While some of the improvements, such as the HTML5 and other developer enhancements will continue to make the browser their first choice, many of the other changes merely keep it in-line with the competition. For now, Firefox will continue to rely on its vast base of developers and users who value their customizations over superlative claims, so long as Mozilla keeps its browser close enough to its competitors. Now that Firefox has kicked open the door against Internet Explorer, it'd be foolish to expect that they'd be the only ones to rush through it.
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Most users employ IE because it comes pre-installed on their machines and they are not aware of anything else. That is 50%. The remaining 20% are the corporate users who are forced to use IE because their corporate tools were designed in 1998 and were never ported to be viewed in newer browsers.
as far as i know internet explorer cant 'tear' of tabs. or is this feature only avalible with aero?
http://support.mozilla.com/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?locale=en-US&comments_parentId=381674&forumId=1
that is only the tip of the iceberg
It is also this reason why having icons preinstalled on computers for the various browsers aren't going to do much for anyone. People will just look at them and either get confused and call technical support for help or get confused and then stick with what they know. None of them will say "Wow I have several to choose from I think I need to find out which one is best." Most will just stick with what they have been using. Microsoft has the market share only because people are stupid and lazy and because they were able to get the browser included with the OS early on. Had it been Firefox or Opera that people started with they would have the upper hand for the same reason.
this is of course a stupid attitude but these are the facts.
when you combine IE8+7+6 shares you get the largest share, it's not justified because most IE share is IE6 and those people are morons!! therefore they shouldn't be taken seriously.
I suggest you take out IE7and6 out of the statistics and then you get the real picture.
btw I'm using Chrome for everyday and IE8 for ActiveX sites (Battlefield Heroes)
Chrome has all the features I Want and need in a browser:
Slim design=max viewable area.
Speed
Design (again LOL)
Slim Bookmark bar
Security
Auto Updates
Search from address bar without needing to press the "down" arrow
ripping tabs (faster than any other cheap mimicking from the competition that you need to wait for literally 2 damn sec after ripping a tab)
many more (I need to breath)
Sure they both use the same rendering engine, but other than that, they are different browsers. K-Meleon is lightweight; Firefox is flexible.
It seems that right click works for some...but not sure why it doesn't work for me (or you). I'm still searching for insights.
Alternatively, you can install the Omnibar add-on or Peers add-on which will allow you to get search suggestions in the URL bar as well.
My biggest all time gripe with firefox is its insistence on using Quicktime for playing certain mutimedia, yet it can't or won't automatically install a Quicktime Plug-in. You have to go to Apple's site yourself, and install the entire Quicktime program.
While I use Firefox almost exclusively, I prefer Windows Media Player for Video and I have difficulty understanding the slavish devotion to Quicktime.
Good one!
It displaced VLC as my default player.
Yes, you can turn this automatic feature off, but it's default state is "on", and you have to find the place in the control panels to stop it.
And it is on by default because this is used to patch security flaws and other things... stuff normal users wouldn't think to check for.
That said, I use Firefox and Safari. Bookmarks are synced across them and I use each browser for different things. On all my instances of Windows and Linux, I use Firefox. I love it and wouldn't really say Safari is better. I just use Safari more. The rip a tab off feature is something I'm really glad to see in FF.
But what is SLOW BEYOND BELIEF is the initial load time of FF3.5.
FF3 was bad, taking as much as 20-25 seconds to load on my machine -- while Chrome loads in less than TWO seconds...
But FF3.5 is the SLOWEST LOADING APP on my machine, taking over FORTY SECONDS to load after a fresh boot.
I've tried uninstalling all my add-ons and disabling all the plug ins and I can shave maybe 10 seconds off that at times.
But it is simply ABSURDLY SLOW loading if it isn't already in system cache.
I have heavy duty multimedia and web and database development tools that load in a tenth the time it takes FF to load...
And that just doesn't make any sense to me at all.
I mean, if I close FF and then reopen it, sure, it snaps back open in a couple seconds. But that's not the same thing.
I dunno. Like I said, even stripped all the way down, FF3.5 takes well over 30 seconds. (I tried uninstalling all the add-ins, disabling all the plugs AND deleting all my bookmarks. That shaves about 10 seconds or so. Otherwise, it's over 40 seconds -- the
While Chrome takes under two on the same machine.
http://forums.mozillazine.org/viewtopic.php?p=6797415&sid=162fcb13e4a706fbdbad9f87bdca9620#p6797415
Use Disk Cleanup and CCleaner and other utilities to dispose of as many temporary files as you can from all the various TEMP folders on your Windows installation.
Ad's slowing down page loading? How old is your computer? Or you still using dial-up? Come on the extra load time for ad's are nonsensical.
Nevertheless it's those milli-seconds of load time that makes most of the internet FREE! So stop your ********. I don't understand this 'Right to ALL' mentality of todays society. You want everything to be free but you want Ad's aka alternative revenue for the companies to provide you with this free service.
And it's almost always the 'Tree-hugging-Pirate Bay-FireFox-Hippy-GIMP' crowd.
Actually it is only 2 years old and I have High Speed Cable Connection!!!!
Even on very recent Core 2 Duo machines, common pages in Google or Yahoo, news feeds, eBay,
you name it --- they drag and drag and drag. It's not the computer and it's not a slow connection.
Frankly, I'm sick and tired of hearing "get a faster computer". The web was snappy and very usable years ago on much slower computers on much slower connections. The bloat is killing it.
As for the ads paying for the free web, yep, true. Well, what did they do 3 years ago? Or 5? We still had ads,
we still had free internet content, and the pages loaded quick. No --- it is the fact that the advertisers insist on becoming more and more intrusive into the pages.
So any browser that can thwart them gets my vote.
You obviously don't understand the difference between pirates and hackers. Pirates, crackers and their ilk are not to be mixed up with the Open Source crowd you misunderstood bigot! Until you know what you're talking about, I recommend not saying anything.
BTW: I am not a tree hugging hippy pirate. I am an FLOSS GNU/Linux using Computer Nerd, can't deal with it? Tough.
I do know the difference, not that my comment was anything to do the difference between the two. Wanting and using ad blockers doesn't make you a Cracker or a Hacker nor is it anything to do with either. My point was about the 'Right to everything' attitude of all you poor tree hugging hippies. Get and ***<ing job.
@SJ251 (aka another tree hugging hippy)
"...Making people register or pay or view ads is the most immoral and unethical thing about the internet..."
Immoral....err Buhhahahahah.... .....HAHAHAHAAHAHHAAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHHAAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHHAAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHHAAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
We can design without limits. On the other hand IE is the black sheep in the web design/development community. Next time you are a book store pick up ANY web design/development book and I assure you there will be at least one chapter on IE buggs and how to hack/get around them.
Get the most from your web browsing experience with FireFox.
--- Sincerely, Pro Web designer/developer
I also design for the web and all I can say is that I don't like it, it is visually unappealing and I much prefer Safari or Chrome. The days when I came across sites that would not work with any browser other than IE or Firefox seem to be past. Safari and Chrome both seem to have realized that the optimum browser experience comes from speed and navigation. The extensions philosophy of Firefox takes away any speed advantage but without the extensions Firefox has little to offer that makes it special to use anymore other than video playback.
Of course FF is in my bad books now because of a buggy installation process that would not allow me to upgrade as it told me I did not have privileges yet did not ask for my administrator password. The only way I could install 3.5 was by trashing the older version first and thereby losing my bookmarks. I have to admit, however, to rarely using FF in the past and see little reason to use it for anything other than testing in the future
That is the point!!! If all browsers supported advances in CSS, Javascript, and (X)HTML the same way that FF does then we would all be designing without limits. Until then, of course I will continue to design and hack my way to achieve a consistent layout otherwise I wouldn't have a job.
The other thing I love about Firefox is the developer plugins. There is no better development environment than firebug and the web dev toolbar.
You claim to design for the web yet clearly lack understanding of few basics of browsing. To lose your bookmarks is laughable! Try Xmarks, problem solved. To deride FF for having little to offer other than its extensions shows a narrow-minded vision of what a browser is used for. Sure a stripped-down Chrome is faster. So is an Indy 500 car. I like smooth suspension, a radio, AC, comfortable seats but these all slow my ride down. I think having them is a worthwhile compromise. So while you can render a page microseconds faster I don't have to manually adjust font size to every page because I have an extension- NoSquint. Just one example of the many advantages FF offers.
It's not all about speed, it's arriving in style!
So my request to Mozilla and/or Adobe: please integrate PDF viewing into Firefox for OS X.
http://lwn.net/Articles/331647/
ps go firefox! (and GIMP and Pirate Bay and Tree-hugging!)
The one thing I'm definitely missing is a built-in dictionary in Firefox On Safari, you simply pressed Command+Control+D to get a dictionary pop-up of the word you are hovering over. In Firefox, you have to use extensions that aren't quite as quick.
Neither a newbie nor power user/IT guy here, but FF3 is my primary browser due to its particular advantages, extensions, etc. But, I find that it won't fire up certain site-coded media players, particularly MSNBC (i.e. Hardball, Rachel Maddow, etc.).
Once in a while, they will work, but most of the time they don't . So I have so far had to use IE for that.
>> Q: Does FF3.5 address this kind of thing with the mentioned under-the-hood improvements, and/or is there some other workaround so I could use FF?
If not, I can hold out for FF4.
Thanks.
If not, any other FF wizards are most welcomed to share their wizdom :)
Cause Safari is still as secure as Macintosh, none at all. Come on, its Javascript engine has had tons of exploits.
I thought the Safari 4.0.1 update would fix it, but I was wrong.
- by iyagtr July 1, 2009 10:03 AM PDT
- I used firefox 3.5 on a mac. I had hard time closing a tab when another tab is loading!
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