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June 26, 2009 1:16 PM PDT

Watch what Microsoft's new security app can do

by Seth Rosenblatt

The public beta for Microsoft Security Essentials, the free replacement for Live OneCare, is now closed, but that doesn't mean you've missed your chance to see what it's like.

In this First Look video, we look at the new interface, the new features, and the new limitations of the latest free antivirus to enter the market. Should AVG and Avira be scared? Watch and find out.

Seth peers into the deep, dark corners of software so that you don't have to. He has yet to suffer a single nightmare about OS/2. You can follow him on Twitter.
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by rmva June 26, 2009 1:41 PM PDT
From the headline, I was hoping you had found some new bug that turns on my coffee maker each morning. Darn.
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by n3td3v June 26, 2009 1:57 PM PDT
That would only happen if Microsoft Security Essentials was open source and had plugin support.
by bananaphonerules June 28, 2009 6:00 PM PDT
@n3td3v
So are you saying Open Source is the only reason you'd add a useless and unrelated feature?
by aiajr0629 June 26, 2009 1:58 PM PDT
Ok, so. I already use Avast and I'm very happy with it. So, why whould I change or even care. Big yawn for Microsoft.
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by ewsachse June 26, 2009 2:03 PM PDT
Well good for you. Go pat yourself on the back

If you have no useful comment, then just ****.
by rrod182 June 26, 2009 2:13 PM PDT
@ewsachse

LOL. Your comment is equally as useless.
by monkeyfun14 June 26, 2009 2:58 PM PDT
@rrod182

And your comment is as equally useless as both of theirs

I personally think its alright for basic things lightweight.
by keano12 June 26, 2009 6:31 PM PDT
Well maybe its because you took your time in seeing what this post is about so you do care? :)
by aaronjohnseldon June 27, 2009 6:50 PM PDT
My take is that Microsoft's primary competitive feature is its simplicity. Similar to OneCare, it take a "just works", "no confusion", "am I safe? (check yes or no)" security suite.

Now, if your one that really enjoys kicking the tires on your antivirus program, you might not get much out of this new app. On the other hand, excepting perhaps the readers of cnet, most people don't care how many "features" are in their antivirus program, as long as it keeps them safe 24/7. And one could argue that the largest security risk nowadays is not any one specific virus, but user confusion.

I think it makes perfect sense to build an "idiot proof" security application that just works.
by Seaspray0 June 30, 2009 10:02 AM PDT
I just wanted to make sure that my useless comment wasn't left out.
by bradward747 June 26, 2009 2:23 PM PDT
Ok. First off. The first quick scan takes 10 mins, and all the scans are a lot faster after that (for whatever reason).

Its been good at guarding/removing trojans in a timely manner -- no issues at all.

I like it, but it does not load on the task bar on startup like defender...which can be fixed by launching it, then it stays there.

Appears not to auto-update..

Nice that you can send microsoft a missed sample, then get an email of what/if it was detected as and when/if it will be added to detection.

It IS still available here: http://www.softpedia.com/get/Antivirus/Microsoft-Security-Essentials.shtml. Remember things will always be on the internet due to 3rd party mirrors :).
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by srosenblatt June 26, 2009 2:31 PM PDT
You can configure it to auto-update at the beginning of a scan, before the scan starts.

Once you grab the EXE from Softpedia, does it actually install and work?
by June 26, 2009 3:36 PM PDT
Cool. I was afraid I wouldn't get to test it out, but it downloaded and installed perfectly!
by ColinABQ June 27, 2009 6:56 PM PDT
If it doesn't appear in the system tray (not task bar - I assume that you meant system tray) shortly after booting, then something is wrong with your installation. There is at least one known issue there, a conflict with a Choice Guard thing installed with, or by, Live Essentials. The symptoms also include MSE opening the x:\Program Files\Microsoft folder and then shutting down, requiring you to re-launch it manually. Search for a fix, you'll find it. On the other hand, it could be this 3rd party business that is tripping you up -- perhaps your installation wasn't complete, or official, or whatever. You should not have recommended that without first being sure that it would actually, and completely, work.
by supoman June 26, 2009 2:36 PM PDT
"Microsoft security app" is kind of an oxymoron.......
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by monkeyfun14 June 26, 2009 2:59 PM PDT
And your kind of a troll.
by keano12 June 26, 2009 6:37 PM PDT
Well Avira and AVG should not really be threatened by this as they have already established their position in being one of the best Free Anti-virus programs out there. Anyway, for Microsoft, I recommend upgrading your Security app into probably something more like Cloud-based definition detection like Panda if I'm not mistaken and collaborate with other Anti-virus companies like Avira? :) It may become more effective, as to the explanation why, I just feel like its safer and better.
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by Remblaint June 26, 2009 9:14 PM PDT
Well, I missed the public beta but is it still available? Lol, after watching that vid, that doesn't change the fact that it looks just like a normal antivirus, nothing special.
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by Yo-wassup June 26, 2009 10:27 PM PDT
-Should AVG and Avira be scared? -
Nah.
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by aaronjohnseldon June 27, 2009 6:54 PM PDT
Are you kidding me? Go ask your friends if they have ever heard of "Avira" or "AVG". They are not exactly household names. If I were them, I'd be trembling in my boots right now. Even Symantec is going to have to step it up if it wants users to keep paying for their nagware. Does anyone else get tired of the annual "You'd better pay up soon, or your computer is going to be toast!' message?
by tm_anon June 27, 2009 1:41 AM PDT
It uses Windows Genuine Advantage to make sure the user is licensed. That means it's not giving anyone who actually could use this software the chance to use it.

It might work to get a lot of idiot IT professionals to install some form of AV on networked machines but otherwise, not helping much.

By the way, the idiot IT guys are the ones who don't realize that Windows needs AV badly.
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by viper396 June 29, 2009 10:08 AM PDT
By licensed you mean all the people that actually bought Windows? Windows Genuine Advantage is a non issue and amounts to nothing more then 1 or 2 mouse clicks for most people. The only people really whining about Windows Genuine Advantage are the same people who installed a hacked/pirated copy of Windows. That in itself already puts you at risk for backdoors and trojans as you can't really trust the person you downloaded it from. Even the most cynical of people have to acknowledge that.

...and you have the nerve to call others idiots.
by SpywareBlockers June 27, 2009 2:40 AM PDT
Amen
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by Death Flirter June 27, 2009 7:07 AM PDT
Thank you! Morro is a very convenient and easy way to destroy my PC.
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by Vegaman_Dan June 29, 2009 11:34 AM PDT
If you don't want to have AV products on your system, then you don't have to do it. It's as simple as that.
by aaronjohnseldon June 27, 2009 7:15 PM PDT
I think this is a great move by Microsoft. Before SP2 came out on XP, security vurnerabilities were one of the top concerns for the Windows OS. Fast forward to today, and Microsoft is at the other end of the spectrm - with security measures up the wazoo being built into the OS and the browser.

Still, the recent Mac ads show very clearly that Windows machines are still seen as secure. You could say that this is a failure of Windows, but I think in many ways its also a failure of the antivirus industry. Until OneCare, Microsoft had left antivirus completely in the hands of the antivirus industry, and they are taking a pounding for it. The Mac ads don't target Windows, they target the failure of Symantec and others to keep Windows safe. So what is an OS maker to do, when it is getting slammed for the failure of its antivirus partners? Microsoft has no choice at this point but to step it up by providing security for ALL windows users. Personally, I hope they are successful. I long for the day when the terms "world hunger", "nuclear weapons" and "computer virus" are all but eliminated from our vocabulary.
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by bd26 June 27, 2009 10:13 PM PDT
i don't like it it is just like windows defender and the one i'm using is better then Microsoft
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by lazycat202 June 28, 2009 6:37 AM PDT
it's FREE!! stop complaining ;)
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by queticomn June 28, 2009 8:47 AM PDT
M$ + Security = "is this a joke". One Live Care failed miserably it barely detected any malware other anti-malware apps detect such as Avira Anti Virus.
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by aaronjohnseldon June 28, 2009 11:05 AM PDT
You should search the net for recent reviews of OneCare. You might be surprised. Plus, the core engine in the new app is going to be the same engine offered to enterprise clients in Microsoft Forefront Security. At the end of the day, it should be formidable protection, to say the least.
by srosenblatt June 29, 2009 10:28 AM PDT
actually, if you look at the tests done by av-comparatives and av-test, onecare consistently scored fairly high. not as high as avira, but higher than avg on occasion.
by queticomn June 28, 2009 5:00 PM PDT
Then again, M$ offering free security software for winbloze sums just about every thing up about how to describe security on winbloze.

As for me, safe and sound on my lovlely Linux SuSE laptop.
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by bananaphonerules June 28, 2009 6:05 PM PDT
Give them a break; they are trying. Unlike other companies and people that feel all they can do is try and knock others.

PS. Is winbloze your favorite word? Like a BWF? Dude. Sweet.
by alt117 June 29, 2009 10:06 AM PDT
Wow M$ and Winbloze in the same sentence. You are sure 1337.

try stepping away from your compute, leave Mom's basement, and go outside sometime.
by viper396 June 29, 2009 10:12 AM PDT
The juvenile opinions of people who use tired phases like "winbloze" or "M$" are hardly worth the effort to dispute. If Linux was so great you wouldn't be so insecure about it.
by Vegaman_Dan June 29, 2009 11:37 AM PDT
That was like totally awesome, dude! You pwnd them all with your tek sklz and most bodacious l33t speak.

However in order to discuss things with the adults, you may wish to learn the vernacular to have your points taken seriously. Speak gibberish and expect the same in return.
by nightinagharta June 29, 2009 1:02 AM PDT
My secondary PC (Vista 64, 4 GB RAM, 300GB HDD) got some virus (Detected by AVG). It was a good moment to test the Microsoft Security Essential. So I hadn't removed the infection, uninstalled AVG and installed MSE. Microsoft software immediately detected the viruses, removed and detected 2 more infections not detected by AVG. The suit is really lightweight and the background scan doesn't slowdown at all my PC. AVG was a little bit more weight during the scan.
I'm not a Microsoft lover but I think we are here to find what works and what does not. This piece of softwar eworks good. So I think people should use it. It is comparable to other free suites. For me it is lighter and very easy to use, well integrated with the O.S. and in Vista it works very fast. And you know: to detect viruses the antivirus need to know it. This means lot of people working continuously on the virus database updating it daily. Larger is the firm, more money and more people it can use to update the virus database. And I think Microsoft is veeeery large.
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by GEO2003 June 29, 2009 1:32 PM PDT
The security choices listed on your Settings Tab, already are present in Win 7 RC but it still refered to as Windows Defender. I have not tested it yet, but in it, is the choice for Checking for Rootkits, which according to your video, is not present yet on the BETA of MORRO.

Just thought you should know.
Geo
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by estevpico June 30, 2009 7:08 AM PDT
For the people like myself who purchased Live One Care (for ex-Vista system) and are now running (the incompatible) Windows 7 RC, let?s put one fact straight first of all : - This is not a free replacement! Plus it will need to be bolted onto a utility package before it can be given that distinction!
After saying that, this beta seems to cover the antivirus section adequately, is not resource hungry, and is very quick in ?Quick Scan? mode. I look forward to giving it a more thorough test in the future.
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