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June 18, 2009 5:30 PM PDT

Songbird 1.2 debuts new features

by Seth Rosenblatt
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Browser and jukebox freeware mashup Songbird brings onstage four new features to help manage songs, communicate better with iTunes, customize volume, and expose more information from Last.fm.

Available for Windows, Mac, and Linux, Songbird 1.2's biggest new feature is the ability to automatically organize files across multiple folders according to each track's metadata. This can be especially useful both if your music is scattered across disparate folders, as well as forcing naming conventions on inconsistent files.

Songbird 1.2 debuts an equalizer and more Last.fm support, including fan photos and YouTube videos at the bottom of the program window.

(Credit: Screenshot by Seth Rosenblatt/CNET)

There's also the ability to introduce iTunes library tracks and playlists into Songbird, and export tracks from Songbird to iTunes. This is an imperfect but effective solution to getting new files synced to your iPhone or iPod Touch. Songbird has supported scrobbling into Last.fm for a while, but users can now access more artist, track, and tag information than before, including photos and music videos. This requires installing the Last.fm add-on, which will load by default but you can opt out of when you install the program.

Audiophiles will appreciate the 10-band equalizer that's now included with Songbird. CTRL+E will launch it, or going to Controls on the menu bar, but to activate it you must check off the On box and close the window before it will affect your sound output.

The full list of changes and known bugs can be read here.

Editors' note: Last.fm is owned by CNET's parent company, CBS.

Seth peers into the deep, dark corners of software so that you don't have to. He has yet to suffer a single nightmare about OS/2. You can follow him on Twitter.
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by spincycle June 18, 2009 6:04 PM PDT
Unfortunately, Songbird sucks. As much as I want it to work well, it chokes on big libraries (e.g. 50,000 tracks) -- it grinds to halt, often requiring a reboot. With each new version, I cross my fingers and hope that they have hired a DB guru to make Songbird work as seamlessly as iTunes and Mixmeister both do (on both Mac and PC platforms), but alas, the team there seems to be testing on fancy features before what is apparently the corner case of people with large music collections stored on external drives :-( I really do want Songbird to be great--but not at the expense of an honest evaluation of what matters to me. Right now, I have to wait yet again for the next release, because 1.2 is abysmal.
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by SeizeCTRL June 18, 2009 6:48 PM PDT
This was my viewpoint on the previous version... that is when I could at least get it to install. Once it finally installed, it looked like it had the potential to be a fantastic app, but it's performance was miserable. Based on your review here and my previous experience, I will skip this version as well since it seems not much has changed. <br /><br />I'm with you though, I really want to see this application reach it's fullest potential, but prior to this update, I felt that they had a long long way to go. <br /><br />Here's to hoping they get it right next time around!
by srosenblatt June 19, 2009 11:30 AM PDT
Hm. I haven't had any problems with my 50 GB library. Obviously not as big as 50k songs, but still reasonably large.
by spincycle June 18, 2009 6:05 PM PDT
Unfortunately, Songbird sucks. As much as I want it to work well, it chokes on big libraries (e.g. 50,000 tracks) -- it grinds to halt, often requiring a reboot. With each new version, I cross my fingers and hope that they have hired a DB guru to make Songbird work as seamlessly as iTunes and Mixmeister both do (on both Mac and PC platforms), but alas, the team there seems to be testing on fancy features before what is apparently the corner case of people with large music collections stored on external drives :-( I really do want Songbird to be great--but not at the expense of an honest evaluation of what matters to me. Right now, I have to wait yet again for the next release, because 1.2 is abysmal.
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by JonathanE1701 June 18, 2009 7:42 PM PDT
I've tried Songbird on a couple different linux distros, and I love it when it works but am not surprised when it doesn't. I had a complete failure crash every time I tried to load it on fedora x64 that I reported to their bug site but got no response. In fact, I installed Fedora 11 just because it worked better with the gstreamer plugins according to the songbird site. It's the closest thing to an itunes-like interface in FOSS applications. <br /><br />I wish Songbird well, but I'm going to wait for some big news about fixes to stability and large database management to try it again.
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by damiandennison June 18, 2009 8:46 PM PDT
Brink back Music Match at yahoo bought. It to me was the best music jukebox ever.
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by Polara426 June 20, 2009 8:16 AM PDT
I agree I loved Music Match even towards the end when it was bloated. I keep looking for a replacement but none yet.
by hankthedwarf June 18, 2009 8:58 PM PDT
I've tried it out before, but I can't substitute iTunes for it until their podcast module improves.
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by luttrell321 June 18, 2009 10:14 PM PDT
Audiophiles don't use EQ's. You're supposed to listen to the music as the artist intended you to hear it.
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by ckh1272 June 19, 2009 1:51 AM PDT
And where do you get this information?? The fact some people like to tweak their music via EQ or otherwise does not exclude them from being audiophiles IMO. Based on your logic, all stereos should sound the same, since that would make sure that all music sounds the same. Am I missing something here??
by agt_1 June 19, 2009 7:49 AM PDT
This is just silly! Even if you could sit in the same studio with the same speakers and desk that the artist did you still would be hearing the music prior to mastering and plenty of artists had no control over the mastering of their music. Do you think your speakers, sound system, sound card, room layout, the type and bit rate of sound file and the health and age of your ears haven't already altered the tonality of the music your listening to? Even the most expensive sound system has quirks of manufacture and inherent biases. And do you listen to analogue or digital? Which is 'truer' to the artists vision? So many things between artist and listener have already changed the music.<br />An EQ is a bit 'blunt force' but it's still a handy way to compensate for some of those variables to make the listening experience more pleasurable for your specific listening conditions.
by superdave132 June 19, 2009 12:31 AM PDT
I updated to 1.2 but the second i found out that the lyricmaster add on wasnt compatable i wanted to go back to 1.1 but it messed up the install so bad it wouldnt let me go back.
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by animere June 19, 2009 4:58 AM PDT
"but to activate it you must check off the OK box " <br /> <br />It should read, "you must check off the ON box" <br /> <br />I might try out this program thanks.
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by srosenblatt June 19, 2009 11:31 AM PDT
Yes, ON box. Thanks!
by Aimee1 June 20, 2009 10:25 AM PDT
Downloaded, installed, and explored it today. Other than some slight imperfections, so far I like its all-in-one functionality, audio quality, and lack of bloat. Look forward to future versions.
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by linhlh June 20, 2009 8:11 PM PDT
No ASIO, Kernel Streaming = No, thanks.<br /> And for huge music library, MediaMonkey seems to be the best choice ( although I'm using Foobar atm)
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by Cradelikz June 24, 2009 4:43 AM PDT
I agree with the guys having problems with huge libraries, I have a 100+ GB and it just crashes all the time, needed to uninstall, also iTunes dies when finding info on the library. I have a Phenom triple core pc and even the mouse stops moving XD!!!<br /><br />But unexpectedly, Windows Media Player resolves really good!<br />But MediaMonkey has no match, but I don't like it's search function, that's why i keep using WMP.<br /><br /><br />I really miss the good ol' Winamp days...<br /><br /><br /><br /><br />Bottomline: Songbird rocks if you are just a casual listener, would be better but it needs to fix it's bottlenecks.
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