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May 13, 2009 4:27 PM PDT

Windows 7 on your Intel Mac - for free!

by Jason Parker
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Windows 7 on Mac (Credit: CNET)

Most people who read The Download Blog are probably familiar with the coming release of Windows 7. For a full rundown of new features, check out Seth Rosenblatt's hands on post here, but there's plenty of Windows 7 content to pore over.

Judging from many of the comments, people who have used Windows 7 are saying it's the OS everyone hoped Vista would be. So when I read this week that you can easily setup and run Windows 7 in a virtual environment on an Intel Mac, I had to try it out. I can't advise every Intel Mac user to try this, but if you're an experienced computer user and take care to make sure your current data is backed up beforehand, this method for getting the Windows 7 Release Candidate on your Mac is pretty simple. The best part about it? It's free.

To get started, download VirtualBox (Mac or Windows). This free virtual environment from Sun lets you set up a sterile environment to test out questionable apps, experiment with beta programs, and--for our purposes--launch an entirely different operating system. Anyone with VMWare Fusion or Parallels can skip this step; VirtualBox is for people who don't already have a virtual environment. Boot Camp users who install Windows 7 on a partition can launch Windows 7 after a restart, but VirtualBox makes it possible without a restart for free.

Windows on a Mac

Use the dropdown windows to select the correct version of Windows

(Credit: CNET)

Once VirtualBox is installed, download the Windows 7 Release Candidate. This is a 2.36GB file--so if you're not on a fast connection (and even if you are) you'll probably want to download it over night. You will need a Hotmail account, MSN account, or Windows Live ID to download the file from Microsoft.

Launch VirtualBox and create a New Virtual Machine. Name the machine "Windows 7" or whatever will be recognizable to you. Make sure to set the RAM to 1GB for smoother performance. The rest of the settings you can leave as default. Start your new virtual machine, and choose to install Windows from CD/DVD (you're using a CD image of the software which you'll choose by browsing your desktop). In the Media Source section of that same window, choose the Windows 7 image file you downloaded.

Windows on a Mac

Select Create new hard disk for your copy of Windows 7 to live in

(Credit: CNET)

Next, you will go through several installation dialog boxes which should be mostly self explanatory (Install Now, language choice, etc). When the installer asks which type of installation you want, choose Custom (Advanced) because you are installing cleanly on an untouched virtual system. When the next window asks where you would like to install Windows, install it in the default location (which will be your 20GB virtual hard drive).

From there, wait through the installation process, choose whatever username you want, and Use Recommended settings to start off. Since this is a free release candidate for testing, you can bypass the registration screen completely by hitting Next.

Last, but not least, set the Windows clock to the correct time, choose the type of network your on (if you have a network) and that's it! Windows 7 should start up. The Windows 7 Release Candidate will continue to run through June 2010, when it will begin to nag you to buy the full version.

Windows on a Mac

Windows 7 is up and running in VirtualBox!

(Credit: CNET)

Note: If you plan to run Windows regularly in VirtualBox, you will need to take precautions against viruses, spyware, and other common Windows security concerns. At the very least download a free antivirus program and an antispyware program. To get you started for free, I suggest AntiVir and Malwarebytes, though there are plenty of free options available.

Jason Parker writes software reviews and features for Windows, Mac, and iPhone. If he learned to dance, it would make him a fabled "quadruple threat," but we can't get him to do it.

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by estampler May 13, 2009 5:05 PM PDT
is there a way to do the same thing on a regular windows system? (i.e. keep vista but also have windows 7 rc)
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by cjxc92 May 13, 2009 5:57 PM PDT
Yes- VirtualBox is available for Windows too, for free.
http://www.virtualbox.org/wiki/Downloads
by Dalmatian28 May 14, 2009 12:25 AM PDT
This is such a stupid idea! Spend thousands for the Apple hardware and than run the Windows 7 OS that runs perfectly fine on the hardware that costs less than $300.00 to purchase. What a logic!!!!!
by b_baggins May 14, 2009 7:43 AM PDT
@Dalmation,

There is no $300 box that runs Windows 7 acceptably. Macs have been consistently rated as the fastest Windows machines on the market.

News flash for you, quality costs money.
by mperez100 May 14, 2009 9:03 AM PDT
@baggins

typical mac user ignorance. what dalmatian most likely implied is that win 7 works perfectly fine on something you dont need to spend a small fortune on.

there is a ton a great high quality hardware when put together (for a heck of a lot less than a mac) will smoke a comparable mac if not get a much more powerful system for the same price of a basic mac pro. i work extensively with both platforms and have for years so i know what im talking about
by seven7dust May 14, 2009 2:53 PM PDT
@dalmation28
Running Windows is only for Fun, Most Mac users don't really bother with it
and running both in parallel is quite nice too
by pithenumber May 14, 2009 3:47 PM PDT
@77dust
I know Mac users who have switched to Win7 near full time
by InkyRed May 14, 2009 7:20 PM PDT
Just wanted to say...I have a dell lappy and a Unibody Macbook. They're both fine machines and all, but when you're a college student why the hell would you carry around anything but a macbook...they're much nice to look at. It's all about the vanity my friends...and the huge touchpad. Being able to Windows 7 it up is just a huge bonus because I CAN DO IT...time to sell that DELL.
by schmidty313 May 13, 2009 6:51 PM PDT
Well, its also free on other Windows OS's, how it this special?
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by deanbvfx May 14, 2009 7:32 AM PDT
Because while MS hand out VirtualPC for free, Parallels(the defacto OSX VM) cost's. So I suppose this article is mainly pointing out their are free VM solutions on the Mac.
Wonder how VM's cope with the March 2010 shutdowns?
by nycfootballer May 13, 2009 6:56 PM PDT
Is there any way to have a virtual environment on a windows machine, like is there software similar to virtual box that will let u do the same thing but on windows?
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by hardrock302 May 13, 2009 8:14 PM PDT
Sun has versions of Virtual Box for Windows, Mac and Linux hosts.
by justinf79 May 13, 2009 9:26 PM PDT
Will windows 7 work with bootcamp yet?
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by masonkid1 May 14, 2009 4:04 AM PDT
Yep, go here for a guide on how to get it working if you need it.

http://www.simplehelp.net/2009/01/15/using-boot-camp-to-install-windows-7-on-your-mac-the-complete-walkthrough/
by flickrz May 14, 2009 10:19 AM PDT
Yeah, works like a charm. It is exactly the same procedure as with Vista or XP. In fact, that is where I am writing this comment from.
by Assais May 13, 2009 11:52 PM PDT
wow look at that, apple users interested in windows 7..hmm interesting..
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by Mattjw24 May 14, 2009 12:58 AM PDT
Trust me, im an avid mac user and could care less. Windows (any version) doesn't do for me what it used to, aside from all the headaches, but you have to admit, the option to run both platforms is nice little comforting thought. For whatever reason that is.
by fooldog01 May 14, 2009 5:51 AM PDT
You COULD care less? You know that means you care, right? Think about it.
by caddman1steve May 14, 2009 12:23 PM PDT
I know many who are pc users considering moving to mac because of my reported incompatibilities with their older trusted and customized CAD software inside Vista They figure if they are going to have to relearn everything then why not use a more friendly and simpler system to begin with which the Mac is deffinetely both. Their programs work fine in XP but will not run at all in vista or even load. Hence, my attempt to learn more about doing CAD and supporting other custom programs I have written inside a virtual machine on a pc or a mac. The problem is that when you get a new laptop or desktop pc the drivers and os are vista (64bit too). Nobody likes it and it slows down all the time because you are running 32bit apps. Not being able to use XP applications is huge! So, if we can run xp or or RC7 in vm on a mac - we wouldn't face the rediculous vista nightmare and would benefit by being able to run software for both platforms. I find very few programs are written to only run in vista. I setup plenty of Vista machines to do cad but the upgrade prices to get lets say the 64bit upgrade for AutoCAD 2009 from maybe 2004 the cost is more than the computer. And if you consider the Architectural program changes, time investment and complications of relearning how to draw proficiently, It just makes sense sometimes to keep with the old programs because they work great and do everything you need them to do when the new ones often don't and you must learn how to run them.
by iloveads47 May 14, 2009 4:32 AM PDT
I really have no idea why everyone is so excited about Windows 7. Isn't it basically the same thing as Vista with a few broken things fixed and a new gui? Look, Microsoft is Microsoft and that's never going to change. Get your software someplace else.
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by don_bidarian May 14, 2009 5:38 AM PDT
Maybe you should realise that all games have a big "Game for windows" logo on it ;)

Mac is pretty like any other apple product, but it's not useful at all.
I have 10 fingers, I think I can use 3 of them and have both left click, right click and scroll wheel which makes the job easier for me. Also I'm intelligent enough to use windows.
by b_baggins May 14, 2009 7:45 AM PDT
And, that, my friends is the heart of the mindset of your typical Windows zealot. He glories in using a pain in the butt, difficult to use operating system because he can then brag about how intelligent he is to be able to figure it all out.
by sweaty_taco May 14, 2009 8:43 AM PDT
I'm pretty sure you can say the same thing about all of the feline dot releases on the Mac side.
by Staszek May 14, 2009 10:52 AM PDT
I also have ten fingers and I am clicking three of them on my left click right click and scroll on my Mac right now. Where is this still archaic logic that Mac's cant right click?

Btw my iMac is running windows seven in bootcamp, and I have an XP laptop. I think all of them are great for one reason or another (well actually XP sucks). But I do like 7. Why cant we all get along! Im pretty sure all the ad agencies who are making the new totally aweful PC commercials lately think their Macs are pretty useful lol!
by caddman1steve May 14, 2009 12:43 PM PDT
My excitement about Windows 7 is that it is suposed to be compatible with XP (32-bit) programs. I will be testing this shortly to determine wether or not that is true (with RC7 32-bit) on an AMD 64 that has been running XP for 5 years with plenty of hardware upgrades. I am loading the RC7 in VM so the main configuration (that works!) does not get damaged and the programs can be tested in both environtments for compatibility and speed on the same system. I support over 30 offices CAD computers and am a specialist in CAD 3D Modeling and Construction Document Drafting. But as I stated XP compatibility is my priority at this time for those customers that have encountered a roadblock with upgrading to Windows Vista.

Below is a comment from this address: https://www.microsoft.com/windows/windows-7/whats-new-work.aspx
We know how important it is for the hardware and software you use today to work with Windows 7. So we?re doing several things to help.
We?re working with our partners to help ensure their products will work with Windows 7. You can expect that most of the products that work with Windows Vista to work with Windows 7 as listed below from the Microsoft website,

If you?re buying a new device or application, look for the "Compatible with Windows 7" logo. These products have passed tests that Microsoft designed to install readily and run reliably with Windows 7.
With Windows 7 Professional or Ultimate, you?ll be able to run many productivity and business programs designed for Windows XP. Some additional software will be necessary and it will be available free-of-charge as a download from Microsoft.
by Thunderbuck May 14, 2009 4:21 PM PDT
The big game-changer here is likely to be XP Mode. And, yes, it works beautifully. Not just XP in a virtual machine, when the user installs older software in that XP machine, it publishes links to the Win7 Start menu.

It also shares clipboard and drives, so to the user it behaves exactly like a native Win7 app (though it doesn't render in Aero, so you at least get that visual cue).

Drawbacks? Two: won't run on just anything (CPU and mobo both need to have hardware virtualization support; most recent CPUs include this), and program launches are a tad slow if the VM isn't already running. Otherwise, it's fantastic.

Now, Win7 itself is already better than Vista, but having this support for older programs is fantastic. I have a bunch of valuable older software that won't run in Vista, like the original Dreamweaver MX and Visual Studio 6.0. I don't use them much, but I still have lots of reference and training materials for these programs, and I definitely see projects from time to time to fix or update old Visual Basic programs. I used to run this stuff from a VM, but Win7's implementation is WAY easier to work with.
by juelmo May 14, 2009 6:02 AM PDT
im an avid mac user... iv installed windows 7 with bootcamp and it runs smooth. Im impressed with the new OS but i dont plan on making a permanent switch.. its literally there to play some windows only games, and for utopia angel for Utopia.... It also runs smooth in vmware and works like a charm in unity mode.
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by b_baggins May 14, 2009 7:48 AM PDT
I've played with Windows 7 as well, and am not terribly impressed. It still suffers from the same annoyances in usability that MS has always suffered from. The lipstick is prettier, but it's still a pig.

MS' philosophy continues to be: Making the easy annoying.
by mperez100 May 14, 2009 9:07 AM PDT
perhaps you are letting your bias' get the best of you? for me and many more users, 7 runs smoother, less annoying, and is more easily customizable to get rid of "annoyances" i can go on and on, but bottom-line, there are plenty of nice changes that make the user experience better.
by flickrz May 14, 2009 10:20 AM PDT
I must say, I am really impressed. Now, I end up running Win 7 most of the time at home. I still love mac osx but don't use too much.
by gradytripp May 14, 2009 6:48 AM PDT
I'm also a Mac user, but all the software I use to manage my diabetes (including managing my insulin pump) is Windows-based. I don't want to buy a computer--even a $300 one--to run one or two programs.

But I must be stupid, I guess.
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by franko1983 May 14, 2009 7:23 AM PDT
How is this special? I had windows 7 on my iMac via bootcamp for weeks, and i still do. It runs great, and yeah, its ALSO FREE!
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by tcr071 May 14, 2009 7:40 AM PDT
I've been running Windows 7 since the beta on BootCamp. I love the task bar but wish there was some equivalent of expose. Both operating systems are not perfect. If I could have expose on Windows that would be my ideal OS I think and I know that I can download some crap that does it but it doesn't work anywhere near as smoothly. Apple needs to work on the dock because Microsoft just one-upped them with that. Hopefully there will be a new one with Snow Leopard though I doubt there will be with Apple publicly stating most changes are happening under the hood.

We shall see.
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by mperez100 May 14, 2009 8:59 AM PDT
there is

http://insentient.net/

ive been using this one for almost 2 years now and it kicks major butt compared to other win expose clones
by caddman1steve May 14, 2009 8:41 AM PDT
Has anyone tried to run really specialized software like AutoCAD in windows 7 on a Mac ? I too admire the hardware and reliability of the Mac, having built thousands of CAD machines geared specifically towards CAD. I do get tired of the hardware failures, buggy OS fixes and poor driver support. I would like to know if this works. I was thinking of trying to run OSX on a PC instead to open up some of the interresting Mac apps to pc users.
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by ryancheah May 14, 2009 9:14 AM PDT
i would like to know that too.. can Windows 7 run heavy design and CAD softwares like XP does?
by srosenblatt May 14, 2009 11:25 AM PDT
If it runs on Vista, it should run on W7. So, Rhino 3 will probably have problems with 7 since it has problems with Vista, but Rhino 4 SR 2 should be fine assuming you've got a graphics accelerator. If you don't have decent graphics card, you probably shouldn't be running Rhino in the first place.
by hyNchus May 27, 2009 3:06 AM PDT
Hello there caddman1steve,

I am using Windows 7 v7127 x64, running autocad architecture 2010 on a mac intel, and i never had such a stable os. It works perfectly, fluid and efficient.

I have nothing more installed on w7, only the autocad app. I'm not sure if that's the main reason why everything works so well, but it definately does.

cheers
by NewWestBC May 14, 2009 9:11 AM PDT
I run several Windows PCs for the past 7 years or so, with only the default firewall, defender and keep my system updated with the latest updates.
With a little common sense I haven't had a single virus or malware to speak of.

Instead of bogging down your system with virus, spyware and malware protection. Keep your backups current.
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by RhesEbag May 14, 2009 11:23 AM PDT
It's funny, I JUST did this yesterday. Let's me use some PC-only TV broadcast apps to stream Blackhawks and White Sox games. Woo!

Also, I'm amazed at how much I've forgotten about Windows in just the 18 months since I went Mac-only.
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by caddman1steve May 14, 2009 11:46 AM PDT
It is hillarious - I am downloading RC7 with apple safari on my amd pc to try it. It would not download on Internet Explorer 7 - Microsoft fools themselves again.
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by caddman1steve May 14, 2009 11:47 AM PDT
what apps are you testing? Woo Hoo!
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by tipoo_ May 14, 2009 12:05 PM PDT
What i dont understand is why they havnt made defragmentation invisible to the user, like with any decent third party defrag utility.
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by caddman1steve May 14, 2009 1:09 PM PDT
you should post this comment on the microsoft windows 7 support blog - I believe you can view it thru the console or management screens only
by sarb2008 May 14, 2009 1:32 PM PDT
How do I uninstall Windows 7 from the virtual box once i am done using it?
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by Tinman52 May 14, 2009 4:33 PM PDT
I loved Virtualbox up until about a day ago. I wanted to run a Ubuntu x64 host and a Win7 x64 guest. Unfortunately, I couldn't get the Win7 x64 host to run on a Thinkpad x200 laptop even with the VM settings enabled in the bios.

Just a warning that this might be a problem. The x86 OS's are on their way out.
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by mpitts1 May 14, 2009 5:34 PM PDT
I had been a pc user for 15 years and switched to a Mac last summer, great OS and better support and easy to learn how to use. I can see very little reason to run a dual OS systems at least the way I use a computer. I still have a pc desktop but it will be replaced with a new IMac this fall. If you have never tried a Mac you need to, it is just a better product.
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by atomicbomb156 May 14, 2009 7:37 PM PDT
Quality does not cost money, assuming the buyer is smart and resourceful. Buyers like that are surprisingly rare. If you say quality costs money then what do luxury items stand for? False statement, in most cases, and there are plenty of good options that are free. Usually software or OS, such as openoffice or ubuntu.
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