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March 19, 2009 5:55 PM PDT

Hands-on with IE 8: A giant step for Microsoft

by Seth Rosenblatt
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It's no secret that when judged by several popular Web browser speed tests, Internet Explorer 8 doesn't hold up well. Beta versions of IE 8 have been available to the general public for more than a year, and today's release of the stable build didn't include anything revolutionary.

Web slices bring recently updated content to your Favorites bar.

(Credit: Screenshot by Seth Rosenblatt/CNET)

Using the SunSpider JavaScript test, the official IE 8 scored 9849.4 ms on a Windows Vista machine with 2 GB of RAM and a 3.00 Ghz clock. This is significantly slower than most other major browsers. Not surprisingly, Microsoft claims (scroll down to Case Study Videos) that these kind of speed tests aren't relevant to how most people use their browser, and there may be some legitimacy to that.

Setting aside the issue of speed for a moment, some of the features in Internet Explorer bring it up to what we've come to expect from a browser, and some of them forge ahead. Many of these are borrowed from other browsers, and at least in the case of Firefox, the features can be imported using extensions. Indeed, some of Microsoft's bigger innovations like Web slices and Accelerators were replicated via Firefox extensions a while back.

IEAddons.com is Microsoft's answer to Firefox's add-ons site, sort of.

(Credit: Screenshot by Seth Rosenblatt/CNET)

If you're new to IE 8, Web Slices lets you save predefined sections of a Web page for at-a-glance viewing. Instead of going to a traffic Web site for updates, the latest commuting news comes to you. Web slices are not an automatic feature, so you'll need to install them by clicking on the Get more add-ons option on the Favorites bar, going to the IE Add-ons site, or choosing Manage Add-ons under Tools on the menubar.

To install a Web slice, you must click the Add button from IE Add-ons site. That will open up the site in a new window, and as you mouse over it you'll see green boxes appear to indicate a potential Web slice. Click on the box, and the Web slice will be added to your collection, with an option to place it directly on the Favorites bar. Checking the weather or traffic or even headlines becomes as simple as click the drop-down arrow for that slice.

Accelerators are links that cut out the steps needed to blog, tweet, or use Facebook.

(Credit: Screenshot by Seth Rosenblatt/CNET)

Similarly, Accelerators make repetitive tasks one-click behaviors, such as getting a definition for a word. Once you've installed the Accelerator, double-clicking on a word will bring up a blue box. Click the box to see a drop-down list of choices. Once you mouse over your selection, a pop-up window will show you the precise piece of information you've been looking for, whether it's a definition or a blogging window.

InPrivate browsing introduces a cache and history on-off switch, similar to features offered by Google Chrome, Safari, and Firefox. Accessible from the Safety menu or using the CTRL+SHFT+P hot key, it opens a new browsing window with a label at the left of the location bar that indicates you're using InPrivate. There's also InPrivate Filtering, located just below InPrivate browsing, which can be customized to tighten or loosen the noose placed on information sent out when visiting certain sites.

Domain highlighting makes it easier to avoid getting spoofed.

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There are also several slight but useful features in IE 8. As you open new tabs, they get color-coded and moved around so that similar sites are grouped together. I found this a bit jarring at first, because I expected new sites to be opened in the same place, but I can understand the logic behind it and why some users might like that kind of tab behavior. Tabs can be configured at the bottom of the General page under Internet Options.

Internet Explorer 8 also has tab sandboxing like the Webkit-based browsers from Google and Apple. You can't rip a tab off into a new window, but when a tab crashes, IE itself won't, and the tabs are configured to either resurrect themselves or open a new page on your default search engine.

There's a greater emphasis on Web standards and security than before. The SmartScreen and cross-site scripting filters throw up a red warning page when you're about to visit an unsafe site. There's also domain highlighting, which grays out the name of the URL you're looking at except for the domain itself. This sounds simple, but effectively draws attention to spoofed site URLs.

Version 8 is the most standards-compliant yet, but in case a page breaks, the Compatibility button should resuscitate it.

(Credit: Screenshot by Seth Rosenblatt/CNET)

There's also a compatibility button so that sites designed specifically for IE 7 and earlier can still be viewed. Placed at the right-hand side of the location bar, clicking it should reload the site you're looking at under the IE 7 rendering engine.

IE 8 does have more problems than mere JavaScript engine speeds. It scores a 20/100 on the Acid3 test, the lowest of the major browsers, and the installation process still requires a reboot. There's no default "smart" location bar that many other browsers have, although you can search your history and most visited pages from it.

Drawbacks aside, there's no reason to not upgrade if you're an old fan of IE, and there's even a few things in IE 8 for new users. Even though there are some nice usability features in IE 8, I think that Internet Explorer has a long way to go to replace the damage that the notoriously insecure IE 6 did to its reputation.

Seth peers into the deep, dark corners of software so that you don't have to. He has yet to suffer a single nightmare about OS/2. You can follow him on Twitter.
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by KonradK March 19, 2009 6:06 PM PDT
Too little too late. IE is a text book example of why monopolies are bad.
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by msjonker March 19, 2009 6:33 PM PDT
While I agree that it is too little, too late, the fact that you expect more, and get it with browsers such as Firefox, demonstrate that Microsoft is not a monopoly. If it was a monopoly, you would not have this choice.
by rllaw March 20, 2009 9:23 AM PDT
Maybe too little, too late. However, IE is not an example of why monopolies are bad (since MS is clearly not a monopoly--check the references to other browsers by other vendors, note how many there and the fact that there are other fine browsers omitted), but rather it is an example of why monopolies can't exist simply because a company is huge. In order for MS to actually become a monopoly, it would need the government to pass a law making it illegal to compete with MS. Then life would suck. As it stands, enjoy running MS products through the mud and using superior alternatives.
by KonradK March 20, 2009 10:48 AM PDT
I totally agree that the current situation is not a monopoly. What I was referring to was the interval between the death of Netscape and the birth of Firefox where a monopoly did exist for several years. Because of this monopoly Microsoft did not have any incentive to improve IE and as a result IE turned into a festering corpse.
by ferree01 March 25, 2009 8:22 AM PDT
yeah, and the telephone mess is why monopolies are not always bad....why do you knock 'free'? i have found in life you usually get what you pay for.....except for in the beginning when netscape navigator cost $50...but then most of you key/mouse twinkies are too young to remember the ripoff!
by Mac OS XP March 19, 2009 6:26 PM PDT
A giant step? Only NOW do they bring CSS 2.1 support..... when the current version has moved on to CSS 3, which everyone else supports. A giant step? It's still not a download>install, it's verify>download>update>install>reboot... When will they get a clue? People don't need and people don't want Internet Explorer.
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by ncalishome March 19, 2009 10:34 PM PDT
"CSS 3, which everyone else supports" haha, you are uninformed or a troll... or possibly both?
by Lerianis3 March 20, 2009 12:05 AM PDT
Actually, he's right. Firefox supports CSS 3, Opera supports it, Safari supports it..... IE8 is the ONLY one that doesn't support it totally yet and that's going to **** off a lot of people who are making websites and will STILL have to do 'kludge' solutions to get IE8 to run their websites.
by ncalishome March 20, 2009 1:01 AM PDT
All browsers (IE included) support some of the CSS3 specification, but seeing as how it's STILL IN DEVELOPMENT all browsers offer varying support for it. Go check out w3.org or even wikipedia and let me know how the misinformation you're spewing here looks. 2.1 is current, and considering that even hasn't been a finalized standard for all too long, Microsoft is not even all that late to the game.

I don't use IE and hate having to code sites in a world where IE exists but don't confuse people as to the state of web standards.
by ncalishome March 20, 2009 1:05 AM PDT
@Lerianis3 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_layout_engines_(CSS) appears to be a good link to educate yourself on CSS3 adoption.

"IE8 is the ONLY one that doesn't support it totally yet" lol
by nambinhvu March 20, 2009 9:49 AM PDT
Dude...speak for yourself...I know plenty of people out there who prefer internet explorer to firefox and the other browsers. Heck I prefer internet explorer to firefox just because their yahoo toolbar works better. Also ctrl + k to copy a tab is cool. I also like the way it handles downloads and saves. I also like the way it handles the favorites and I like the new quick favorites tab they added. I'm sure you can do this with firefox somehow, but still...some people just want a browser to work the way they want from the start. They don't want to have to tinker around with everything to make their own. I agree firefox is a lot more flexible and you can add and change stuff up a lot more, but I tried making firefox like internet explorer and it ends up being a cheap knock off. So when people say internet explorer rips stuff off of other browsers, you can say that for firefox because people are building apps to make firefox have the features of others. That being said...speak for yourself, when you say people don't need and don't want internet explorer...You have a right to your opinion, but don't go and say that no one wants it. Maybe you should clarify and say, SOME people don't need and SOME people don't want internet explorer. Just like some people don't want and don't need firefox...Everyone likes different things, so...yeah...
by D_E_A_T_H_999 March 20, 2009 6:26 PM PDT
I do not agree with that at all, but I do agree that other web browsers are better. I personally use 3 at all times for they have many different functions. The three I use are Firefox, IE, and Google Chrome. I have tried Safari and Opera as well as a few other miscellaneous ones and for me Google Chrome is the fastest, but lacks features that Firefox has and on some web pages, Firefox messes with the setup. If neither work, then I go back to IE. Again all I am saying is that IE isn't the best, but you can't kick it to the curb completely.
by JimBrittTN March 22, 2009 4:00 AM PDT
I installed the "new" IE8 on my 64-bit Vista Pro and it locks up within 5 min of opening it!

IE is JUNK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Foxfire is a decade ahead of IE and it has NEVER crashed.
by callandor87 March 22, 2009 9:32 AM PDT
@JimBrittTN

Your Firefox has never crashed??

Where did you get it from, the future?
by pithenumber March 22, 2009 10:55 AM PDT
@Jim
what's foxfire ;)

my firefox crashes all the time, I'm using the Beta though
by HlLLARY CLITON March 19, 2009 6:28 PM PDT
What a joke !! IE8 LOL its slow, ugly, and featureless as ever
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by tuneslover March 20, 2009 5:16 AM PDT
lolz....think before you speak anything in a public place..or ppl would think u r a mad or fool or something lyk that.
by nambinhvu March 20, 2009 9:54 AM PDT
Actually, if I start a firefox page and internet explorer page right after a reboot internet explorer loads faster...For firefox you need to keep a window open at all times to make opening other firefox windows faster. They added a lot more features and to me it's easier to use than firefox, where you have to go searching for the features you want because they don't start with them. How do you duplicate a tab in firefox? In internet explorere 8 you can press ctrl 8 and it duplicates the tab with all its history, so if you're on one page and want to keep it, but go to another page on that same site or go back you can with multiple copied tabs. Firefox doesn't have that. I checked all the menus, you're probably gonna be like so? you can download it somewhere, or someone can develop an app for it. Firefox had to be bloated with apps and piled with all these extras for me to like it and be comfortable with it. Internet explorer didn't need me to get extras, it already had the stuff I wanted. Only thing missing is nuke everything, but that's just for fun.
by pj_mouse March 20, 2009 3:19 PM PDT
IE appears to load faster because it preloads with Windows. All you're doing is loading the GUI. Pieces of Firefox are not running in the background all the time whether you're using it or not, unlike Internet Explorer.
by darfjono March 23, 2009 8:48 AM PDT
@nambinhvu

to get a dupe tab in firefox you right click>duplicate tab
by safety first March 24, 2009 3:12 PM PDT
i m commenting on JimBritTN:believe it firefox 3 crashes, and I installed IE8 and it freeze like it happened to you, but all you had to do was turn off computer and turn back on , I kind a like IE8 its not bad,but my first browser is firefox3, everythings going to be okay! :) :]
by Dylan_Wisor March 19, 2009 6:31 PM PDT
What Konrad said: Too little too late. Regular IE users are going to absolutely lose their minds though, this is huge for them.
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by whozzit March 24, 2009 10:09 PM PDT
Not so. Each IE release has a learning curve of about four minutes... for those capable of learning.
by dbargen March 19, 2009 6:33 PM PDT
When it comes to browsers it's not the new features that pull people away from one browser to another, but the the failures of a browser that repel current and prospective users from its use.

For Explorer to draw users away from Safari and Firefox, it would have to post some major improvement for use issues of the latter that are just untenable.

And FYI, new explorer doing so poorly with running the industry standard Java script vs. new Safari being up to 4x faster in this area is not likely to pull users.
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by Lerianis3 March 20, 2009 12:06 AM PDT
Yeah, I have to agree. I'm a Microsoft 'fan-boi' and even I have to say that..... IE8 isn't really much better than IE7 when it comes down to it, and is MUCH slower than Safari, Chrome and Firefox on javascript intensive sites.
by Rolker March 20, 2009 2:40 PM PDT
I liked IE7 a lot.... until I tried Firefox, and I was amazed at the speed that this browser works.
I downloaded IE8, and I must say it was a nice surprise - how the tabs work, the way it looks and all the new features. It still seems to be slightly slower than Firefox, but it is a huge improvement compared to IE7!
Am I going back to IE? Not sure, but I'll give it a try. I'm sure that a lot of IE users will be very happy about this browser.
by bedney42 March 19, 2009 6:33 PM PDT
The reason that Microsoft claims that Sunspider et. al aren't "relevant to how most people use the Web" and show that IE8 is just as fast or faster than the other browsers at 'loading pages' is that they continue to refuse to acknowledge the Web browser as a client-side application delivery platform. They still see it as the Web of 1997 - people 'view pages' that are still largely controlled by logic running on the server.

This is out of step with what the Web is evolving into - for better or worse, the Web browser has become the primary application delivery mechanism (even if you just count the all-important, high-margin custom app market and leave out what Google and others are trying to do with Google Docs, Gmail, etc.)

Their solution, of course, is to push proprietary Silverlight if you want to 'build rich internet applications'.

Microsoft understands one thing: this is about developer mindshare and API lock-in. The Win32 API (and higher-level APIs such as VB, VC++, etc.) have locked in developers for the last 20 years into the Windows platform. They're trying it now with .NET / Silverlight.

Microsoft is scared to death of a world where people are developing apps to a commoditized API that is defined largely by standards bodies and not by any one company. It gives the customers pricing power that they haven't had to this point and drives right at the heart of a business that has been built on proprietary APIs driving customer lock-in which drives disproportionally high revenue.

Cheers,

- Bill
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by CrashPad63 March 20, 2009 7:40 AM PDT
You seem to forget, the majority of the web dont care about standards, nor java load speeds or acid tests. They want to surf the web and thats it. IE does that for them period. Man you people are so full of yourselvescompliant this, standards that. CSS2.1 or3.0 support, **** average users dont care. And the naysayers in here to the post dont get that, due to arrogance, hatred toward a platform, ignorance or all three.
Unbelievable.
by Drew.0 March 20, 2009 10:43 AM PDT
Your comment would make sense if .Net and Silverlight werent both open standards that are cross platform.
Novell implemented Mono(.Net on *nix) and Moonlight (Silverlight on *nix), both work well on competing operating systems, browsers, and in competing IDEs
by infinitely March 19, 2009 6:37 PM PDT
I agree
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by another_cissp March 19, 2009 6:38 PM PDT
SunSpider is a JavaScript benchmark for those of you who dont know, and by no means is it a browser benchmark tool. It benchmarks the speed of the JavaScript engine of a browser. It does not test its security, nor does it test the functionality of it. Also SunSpider is written by WebKit which is the javascript engine that powers Safari and I believe Chrome, this is why those 2 browser do so good on the SunSpider test.
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by bananaphonerules March 20, 2009 12:37 AM PDT
I have to agree...my real world experience is that IE 8 is an improvement in speed for IE. Firefox has gone backward.
Hence why I've used the IE8 Beta almost exclusively since its come out...I only use Firefox for testing.
One you're added IEPro (highly recommended) of course.

As for Chrome; its very fast, but extremely annoying to use. A severe lack of features.
by rapier1 March 19, 2009 6:55 PM PDT
So quick question - the reviewer dings MS because IE8 requires a reboot. Didn't the Safari updates for OS X also require reboots? I honestly can't remember but it does seem like everytime OS X get updated I need to reboots (reboot for an ilife and airport update for example).
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by ncalishome March 19, 2009 10:42 PM PDT
It does seem like OS X requires a reboot just about any time I update anything. Very annoying.

I've only had a Mac a bit over a year and what I hear from my Apple fanboy friends/coworkers is that it hasn't always been this way and they quietly admit to it being rather lame.

I like Vista and the 'snooze button' approach to system updates that require a reboot. It seems to me that Vista updates and program installs require a lot fewer restarts than XP did for me, and certainly far less than OS X running by Vista's side here.
by Lerianis3 March 20, 2009 12:08 AM PDT
Unfortunately, when you are fixing something or installing something as ingrained in the OS guts as IE8.... a reboot is going to be necessary, and I cannot really ding Microsoft for that being necessary.
Personally, most non-system and non-IE updates on my computer don't need a reboot, though I am running Vista on one notebook and Windows 7 on another.
by nambinhvu March 20, 2009 10:00 AM PDT
lmfao I know...wth is with them and bad mouthing ie8 just cause it needs a reboot...if you never reboot your computer, I suggest you do it now lol because running a computer for extended periods of time as in days or longer is not good. You need to reboot every once in a while. Don't just hibernate all the time. I learned that the hard way haha
by pj_mouse March 20, 2009 3:28 PM PDT
@nambinhvu: This is only true of Windows where programs leak and continue to consumer memory until everything starts crashing. Under more stable operating systems, you can run indefinitely. The only time my computers get reboots are when I do hardware changes, kernel updates or the power goes out. Currently I've got one box with an uptime of 178 days and that's only because that's how long ago the power last went out.
by ncalishome March 21, 2009 12:59 PM PDT
@pj_mouse I found what you say to be true about Windows XP, but Vista and most likely 7 don't have this problem. The only time I ever have to reboot Vista x64 is when software updates require it.
by Jon N. March 19, 2009 7:20 PM PDT
Hah! 6 years ago, my Taiwanese Pentium 4 makeover came with a disk that had all sorts of things: a Mozilla Browser (Firefox was just being developed), and the norm - Adobe Reader, Java, Flashplayer, etc. When I started to use IE back then, I had BIG troubles. When I used Mozilla, it was stable, it felt more secure, and the more crashes, hangs, and full reboots/re-installs I had to do on XP, the more I loved Open Source Software. Now, I swear by it. I switched from Vista-H.P. to Ubuntu 2 years ago, and I never looked back. I've got a PC that is safer, and I can concentrate on what I want to do - NOT update my anti-virus, de-fragging my HD, & making spyware checks every time I reboot, with no M$ E.U.L.A. looking over my shoulder. If I want to correct something, I don't break any agreements...as long as I report my changes to the Gnu Public License, so everyone else can benefit! Best part of it all... it's free...It's Freee...IT'S FREEEEEE! XD
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by Nataku4ca March 19, 2009 9:18 PM PDT
just to clearify, open source != free

even though most of the time they are, again, just to clarify
by bimmin March 19, 2009 10:27 PM PDT
I am also a Ubuntu user. Ive been also known to recommend linux distribution to family members who are new computers. You can't trust those click happy users who dont know what they're doing ;) With Linux you don't have to worry so much about all of this software or viruses etc making their way on the computer. Even when I used to be on Windows I never used IE. People still use that? lol
by CrashPad63 March 20, 2009 7:42 AM PDT
Why the hell would you put friends and loved ones through the hell that is Linux???? You must really hate them.
by seven7dust March 20, 2009 11:15 AM PDT
@crashpad63
it's a lot better than the Vista hell he and his family would need to go through
by monkeyfun14 March 21, 2009 11:24 AM PDT
@seven
I would much rather deal with a UAC prompt then have to compile my own programs.
by Dylan_Wisor March 21, 2009 12:52 PM PDT
CrashPad63 is very witty.
by whozzit March 24, 2009 10:40 PM PDT
@monkeyfun... You don't have to deal with (or even see) the UAC thing in any of the Vista series of OS's. The Vista Manager app does completely away with the fact that there ever was a UAC prompt. It turns Vista into the docile animal that XP Professional was (is). The thing to do is to buy Vista Manager first and then get Vista where ever you can. And from futher up the list... Avast anti-virus updates itself and doesn't slow down the machine like Norton and McAfee do. And Avast is free. The IOBit smart defrag defragments in the background and it's free as well. I've been using IE since 1993. IE8 is faster than IE7 whether anyone likes it or not.
by saintckk March 19, 2009 8:17 PM PDT
Downloaded IE8 and running FF3.07, with so much add-on and I mujst have to see a lot of improvements in IE 8 for me to changeover from FF. After having used IE8 for 10 minutes or so, contrary with what others are saying,, it is slow and I don't see major changes from IE7 outwardly!

So, i will remain using FF and keep IE as spare! Sorry, MS try harder next time.
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by Rosalind-Smith March 20, 2009 12:47 PM PDT
I use FF as for me it is better for everything. IE can't be got rid of as it's part of the OS. FF is far better but everyone has their likes and dislikes, I know what is good for me. Keep it up Mozilla Foundation!
by mfumbly March 19, 2009 8:24 PM PDT
I tried IE8 in beta. It was crap. As an IE7 user (sorry) I tried the new final IE8 release. Who are they kidding? It's bloated and still crap. I'm going to one of the other browsers out there. Any of which is better than IE will ever be. I like firefox, chrome has real promise, and I really like Safari! Rant on, but that's my story and I'm sticking to it.
BTW- if you do try IE8, it's easy to uninstal.
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by CrashPad63 March 20, 2009 7:43 AM PDT
Either you didnt try IE8 or yu are a very poor judge.
by whozzit March 24, 2009 10:46 PM PDT
@CrashPad63... You don't have to take a lot of this too seriously. Most of them are kids; new to computers.
by lonestarState March 19, 2009 8:35 PM PDT
Nothing much to say other than IE6-IE8 can not pass this simple Javascript/ DOM/ AJAX test. Check it out for yourself.... http://89.233.173.91/bug/

It works with all other browsers : Chrome, Opera, Firefox, Safari....
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by SeizeCTRL March 19, 2009 9:02 PM PDT
After installing IE8 on Vista 64, every time I double click something in Explorer it opens in a NEW folder instead of SAME folder. I've restored folder defaults, I've tried Tasks - Use Window classic folders / Browse folders - Open each folder in the same window... and no matter what, it always opens folders and drives in a new folder. THIS IS GOING TO DRIVE ME NUTS.

I knew I shouldn't have installed IE8... I bloody knew it! I should have stuck with Firefox and Chrome and been done with it. Now I am stuck with some very annoying glitch that will eventually get on my nerves to the point of reinstalling!
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by 0DRK0 March 20, 2009 6:28 AM PDT
If you go to the control panel and search for "view installed updates", you can uninstall IE8 and go back to IE7.
by dstotz March 20, 2009 7:47 AM PDT
It won't drive you nuts if you simply continue using Firefox and Chrome (you might try Safari 4 while you're at it) and forget about IE entirely. ;)
by CrashPad63 March 20, 2009 8:28 AM PDT
dstitz, why go from bad ot worse. Safari, please give us a break. The worst browser out there.
by Drew.0 March 20, 2009 10:53 AM PDT
Open Explorer -> hit Alt+T then O(or click Tools Folder Options)

On the 'General' tab(FIRST screen) in the area labled 'Browse folders' click 'Open each folder in the same window'

hit Apply/Ok
by seven7dust March 20, 2009 11:17 AM PDT
@crashpad4
for once I agree with a MS fanboy
safari 4 sux on Windows but the OSX version is decent !
by SeizeCTRL March 21, 2009 7:58 PM PDT
Thanks for the tips guys... Drew, I think you missed the part where I already tried changing settings in Folder Options.

Changing browsers does not address the fact that any time I open up My Computer and click on a drive, it opens in a new window... then any folder I click on opens up in yet another new window. It's like WinNT 4.0 all over again ;)

I removed IE8 and reverted to a previous state and all is well. Don't know what I was thinking. I never use IE any way. It did seem like an improvement over IE7, but not enough to convince me to switch from Firefox.
by srosenblatt March 23, 2009 10:21 AM PDT
Don't forget that there are not only different versions of IE 8 for XP/Vista, but each OS has two versions: one for 32-bit, and one for 64-bit. You might be trying to install the wrong one.
by baconstang March 19, 2009 9:26 PM PDT
I can't wait to install IE8 on my macs.... Oh wait. I've got to watch Lou Dobbs.
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by CrashPad63 March 20, 2009 8:29 AM PDT
" I can't get my Macs to work." Fixed that for you Troll
by jabberwockgee March 19, 2009 10:26 PM PDT
Can't get the web slices to work? Does anyone know what to do if adding it from the ieaddon website directly doesn't work and there's no green icon to click on to add it?
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by mystical pippin March 25, 2009 2:44 PM PDT
jabberwock - I think I read somewhere in the article that you have to put an "add on" for this to work. In other words a separate application must be installed. (i think)
by queticomn March 19, 2009 11:09 PM PDT
Im a die hard FF an Opera fan. But just to check out ie8, i launched ie7 an went to download the new ie8 with i87. I got a laugh right away. ie7 was not able to start the download even after multiple tries, *ahah*

I proceeded to launch FF an went to use FF to download ie8 from the official download site an guess what... the download started immediately. *ahah*

After installing an using ie8 i was unimpressed as i expected i would be. Same old clumsy, ugly browser as its predecessor.

Nuff said...
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by Lerianis3 March 20, 2009 12:11 AM PDT
Funny.... I had the exact opposite problem. Firefox 3.1 Beta 3 and Minefield wouldn't download the thing, so I finally had to use IE8 Beta to download it and install it.
There is something wrong with Microsoft's new downloading system on their website.... it doesn't work correctly about half the time for some reason.
by aMUSICsite March 20, 2009 2:59 AM PDT
Would you trust a web browser from a company that can't even get a download link to work on their website?

p.s. It's broken at least one of my Javascript routines that work on all other browser
by bwshook March 20, 2009 3:14 AM PDT
I've been an IE7 user since it came out, and looked forward to the "new and improved IE8". I've tried 3 times to get IE8 through Microsoft, and never could get the download to start. I was thinking maybe my anti-virus or firewall was blocking me until I read your comment. Maybe I'll check out other free browsers and see what I find.
by boyvox March 20, 2009 12:09 PM PDT
Yeah something is funny on the download over there. I had the opposite problem you had. I could not download it from Firefox (well, unless I click the button you are supposed to click if it doesn't start automatically), but I downloaded it just fine with IE7. Just goes to show that experiences with software are always myriad and no one person has anything close to "the big picture" unless they have their hands on real data or use case studies. Most of this commenting is of little value by itself. Only in aggregate can you judge the overall successes and failures of software, and we just don't have that yet for IE8. Remember there's no accounting for taste, and ?Everything we hear is an opinion, not a fact. Everything we see is a perspective, not the truth.? -Marcus Aurelius
by boyvox March 20, 2009 10:31 PM PDT
haha! the first thing that happened when I used IE8: I tried to visit the mix09 website and the browser froze with no response for five minutes!! I had to force quit. hahaha....the data collection begins.....:)
by winsoftwareman April 8, 2009 10:18 PM PDT
i can't belive everyone is always so hyped up about new internet exploiter releases. same thing.

P.S. EXPLOITER is not a typo.... oh well ill probably get insulted and stuff. whatever.
by TanzimSaqib March 19, 2009 11:38 PM PDT
You may want to check out customizable webslices at http://LiveSlices.com , will enrich your IE8 experience. Preview of Twitter, Flickr, GMail, Custom RSS and many more right into your browser toolbar.
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by assman March 20, 2009 3:07 AM PDT
definitely not a giant step. Just as bad as the previous versions of IE.
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by whozzit March 24, 2009 10:59 PM PDT
@assman... Oh? Exactly what was wrong with the previous versions? I've been using them since 1993 (along with others) and haven't noticed anything "bad" about any of them.
by winsoftwareman April 8, 2009 10:15 PM PDT
this is the same as IE 7, but slower. get firefox in the meantime.
by uzeshan March 20, 2009 4:35 AM PDT
Small Step for Software Developer and Giant Step for MS..lol
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by myles taylor March 20, 2009 7:45 AM PDT
This is one small step for the world, one giant leap for Microsoft. :P
by winsoftwareman April 8, 2009 10:16 PM PDT
this is a step backwards in my opinion. i downloaded it, and after 5 minutes of use, uninstalled. same as ie 7.
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