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January 26, 2009 11:27 AM PST

Microsoft ready with near-final IE 8

by Ina Fried
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Microsoft on Monday released a near-final "release candidate" version of Internet Explorer 8, the next version of its Web browser.

The software maker plans to say more on its Web site around noon, but, as noted by enthusiast site Neowin, the code is already available from Microsoft's download center.

InPrivate

Among the new features in IE 8 is a browsing mode known as InPrivate, designed not to leave fingerprints on a PC.

(Credit: Microsoft)

With IE 8, Microsoft is hoping to regain some lost ground by adding features such as private browsing, improved security, and a new type of add-ons, called accelerators.

On the security front, Microsoft is adding a cross-site scripting filter, as well as protections against a type of attack known as clickjacking.

In an interview, IE General Manager Dean Hachamovitch said there will be little change between the release candidate and the final version, though he declined to say when the final version will be released.

"The ecosystem should expect the final candidate to behave like the release candidate," Hachamovitch said.

Internet Explorer 8 will work with Windows XP (Service Pack 2 or later) and Windows Vista. A version of IE 8 is also being built into Windows 7.

However, the IE code in Windows 7 is a pre-release candidate version.

"Windows 7 enables unique features and functionality in Internet Explorer 8 including Windows Touch and Jump Lists which require additional product tests to ensure we are providing the best Windows experience for our customers," the software maker said in a statement. "Microsoft will continue to update the version of Internet Explorer 8 running on Windows 7 as the development cycles of Windows 7 progress."

Originally posted at Microsoft
During her years at CNET News, Ina Fried has changed beats several times, changed genders once, and covered both of the Pirates of Silicon Valley. These days, most of her attention is focused on Microsoft. E-mail Ina.
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by tipoo_ January 26, 2009 11:33 AM PST
YAAAAYYY!!! a new browser to downoad Opera and Firefox with!
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by Someone-else January 26, 2009 2:03 PM PST
And this time you can use the private mode, so nobody will know you ever opened IE!!!!
by MafiaPenguin January 26, 2009 3:54 PM PST
OMG OMG OMG Someone else is right!!!
by EcuadorHomesOnline January 27, 2009 6:03 AM PST
I've tried Firefox a few times - horrible little browser. Never installs right, crashes all the time. It's no wonder that most people stick with IE, it's the best browser for people without a religious agenda to pursue.
by tipoo_ January 27, 2009 7:10 AM PST
EcuadorHomesOnline, you should try Opera for a few weeks if you realy hated Firefox that much. theres no sence in sticking to IE.
by EcuadorHomesOnline January 27, 2009 7:46 AM PST
Why should I try Opera, just to have another piece of crapware clogging up my computer? It's not that I'm loyal at all to IE, but I just don't see any reason to switch. IE is easy to use, has all the features I need, doesn't crash, is compatible with every web page I run across, and I've never had a virus or security problem. I usually end up uninstalling 90% of the stuff I try (toolbars, music players, chat programs, etc) just becuase they are extraneous. They take valuable screen space, hard drive space, and slow down my system.

Frankly, the most frequent problems I have are with Adobe Reader and Flash player - but I need to have them because there are so many websites that use these formats. Don't get me wrong, I think Adobe is a great company - but their software sure does crash a lot.
by Mac OS XP January 27, 2009 10:38 AM PST
EcuadorHomesOnline, I suggest you wait until Feb 2 and then try Firefox 3.1 beta 3. I'm using the nightly builds and it's incredibly compatible. And it runs MUCH MUCH faster than IE, and I've noticed it doesn't get spyware like IE often does. Besides, it's also safer because there are lots of vulnerabilities for hacking to IE as opposed to Firefox. Adobe and Flash have never been a problem for me, just install the plugins when prompted!

PS, "It's no wonder that most people stick with IE"? Every year, about five percent of Internet Explorer users switch to Firefox, and this rate has been increasing, despite the fact that every computer comes preloaded with IE. Even independent benchmarks and comparisons and such have favored IE. And when it comes to compatibility, IE's a complete joke. IE 6 couldn't handle transparency. IE 7 still wasn't compatible with CSS 2 (which makes my job as a web developer a pain to make sure pages look the right way in IE -- I can't just use standard code)! And IE 8 is alone among the under-development browsers that isn't compatible with CSS 3.
by oscargodson March 16, 2009 2:17 PM PDT
EcuadorHomesOnline I'm sorry, but it's been decreasing a lot and I'm not sure why Firefox, Safari, Opera, or every other browser doesn't work on your computer. I for one have installed Firefox on Windows XP, Vista, Mac OS X 10.4, Mac OS X 10.5, and Ubuntu 8.x+.

I have tried it on 2 Desktops, 2 Laptops, and 1 netbook and never had problems with it or Safari or Opera.

As a web developer myself, we almost ALL hate users who use IE because IE doesn't follow standards and the only reason IE renders all pages right, or at least you think, is because every developer writes one file for EVERY OTHER browser and one for IE because IE decided they wanted to make up their own web stuff and make every follow it while the other browsers play nice.

We have to dumb down every feature to make it work with IE. It would be like you saying "I use N64 because it works fine." But at the same time you have XBOX 360 game makers required to make the games also work on N64. So much time and money and it's just a waste for such a lame excuse for a web browser.

Plus, screen real estate? I guess you really have never tried FF or Safari because Safari for one uses the least out of any of them. Even more so now that Safari 4 Beta is out.

If you don't think it's a big deal just google IE6 or IE7 and web standards.
by Mr. Dee January 26, 2009 11:40 AM PST
This beta has been too long, especially for a browser. I am mostly a Firefox user, but I use IE 8 with all the Windows Live services. I say its still slow though, especially where caching is concerned. My Windows Live Space page loads way faster in Ff 3.05 compared to IE 8.
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by karpenterskids January 26, 2009 11:57 AM PST
"Private browsing", aka "porn mode", is a feature I wish still didn't exist.

It makes it harder for me to check up on my kids.
(And yes...I could install a keylogger or parental monitoring software, but it makes me look like a control freak)

lol

Having said that...can't wait to see what other new features (besides the ones mentioned in this article) IE 8 brings to the table.
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by BigGuns149 January 26, 2009 1:38 PM PST
If you were *really* depending upon the browser history for keeping up with your kids then you are incredibly ignorant. Even presuming that your kids don't know how to burn a DVD (ie. Knoppix) what was stopping your kids from simply deleting their browser history or using a different browser that has had this feature for some time? Short of password protecting your machine from booting off anything except the HDD and locking down your machine so that they could only use IE and they couldn't edit their browsing history there is no way that you are sure that what is listed in their IE browsing history are the only websites that your kid has visited.

Either you are incredibly naive or you are probably in denial of how easy it is for your kids to hide their tracks.
by danielgrant612 January 26, 2009 3:19 PM PST
porn mode! LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!
by timber2005 January 26, 2009 3:36 PM PST
You should be able to disable private browsing with the IE packager (internet explorer administration kit i think its called) or much easier, Group policy.
by kieranmullen January 26, 2009 4:55 PM PST
Filter at the router, not at the PC level. Change the default dns server to opendns.com servers and then register an account to change your filtering settings.
KieranMullen
http://360oregon.com
by January 26, 2009 6:05 PM PST
your kids look at porn
and if they don't at your house, they do at their friends
learn to accept it
by ultimatebuster January 26, 2009 8:20 PM PST
You know that your kids is perfectly capable of deleting the cookie, cache, history etc.
by dragonbite January 26, 2009 11:59 AM PST
I've been using IE8 because I get to support the users here when they upgrade to it. I find it slow; like a couple seconds to start up even though it goes to a blank page or the same couple of seconds when you hit Cntrl + T for a new tab.

I definitely prefer Firefox, but alas whoever designed our Intranet site made it only look good in IE so I've got to do some "modifications".
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by Someone-else January 26, 2009 2:04 PM PST
That's why the IEtab extension for FF exists.
by a_flores January 27, 2009 8:15 AM PST
Websites are made with FrontPage or its new version (Design) just work perfect in IE. It lost its beauty, flawlessness etc in other browsers.
by Dalkorian January 27, 2009 11:39 AM PST
Anything that only looks right in IE was written by an idiotic monkey that figured out how to use M$ tools. It's a sign of ineptitude and mindlessness; someone who couldn't get a real job unless it involved flipping burgers or mopping floors.
by webguy7 January 26, 2009 12:02 PM PST
seems a lot snappier to me - my tabs are very quick~
Thanks for this MS
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by ducttape36 January 26, 2009 12:03 PM PST
i really like the accelerators but still find it too slow for my everyday use. I'll stick with firefox.
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by t8 January 26, 2009 12:52 PM PST
Wow I can't wait to see all the new features that they have copied from Firefox and Chrome.
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by t8 January 26, 2009 3:40 PM PST
Hey you might want to mind your language as Microsoft may fire you.
IE8 would have looked at Chrome or for that matter Safari and had time to incorporate what they like.
I noticed you didn't say anything about Firefox, so regardless of Chrome, IE is copying Firefox and everyone knows it.
Thanks for listening, you can sign off for the day now and pick up your Microsoft check, just after you make a edit on Microsoft's Wikipedia page.
by DarkPGR January 26, 2009 5:41 PM PST
WRONG, they all copied Opera features, from the tabbed browsing and the real multi-page environment... take a look at Opera and Opera's history, and you will see the borwser where others take inspiration most of the time... altough they still lack the standards support, security and most of the best features Opera has built-in
by timber2005 January 26, 2009 8:01 PM PST
Heh, the URL thing in Chrome which fades everything but the site and extention (like ebay.com) was taken from IE8, not the other way around.
by m8cruise January 28, 2009 10:03 AM PST
i wouldn't mind switching to ie8 even if it were released with copied features AND implemented correctly. currently new features heavily comes at the cost of stability, security and... Browser history really made a reputation to MS!! (let away the W3C violation made by IE6)
by saud_ansari January 26, 2009 1:00 PM PST
Might as well get ready to follow up the download with its service pack within weeks. With the history of MS, that is almost a given that a SP is to follow any version release of any product, be it an OS< web browser, Office, even and MP3 player.
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by 8301 January 26, 2009 1:32 PM PST
Most companies continue to update their products after major releases. I'm having trouble seeing the problem with this.
by Ted Miller January 26, 2009 1:47 PM PST
Microsoft just loves to excel at failing. Why ruin a perfect track record?
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by MafiaPenguin January 26, 2009 3:56 PM PST
Oh, don't worry they're not.
by techman21 January 26, 2009 1:47 PM PST
There are still 2 big problems: it runs ActiveX controls (big virus vector) and it doesn't have true add-on capabilities (a la Firefox).
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by Wei_Zhu January 26, 2009 4:58 PM PST
Hmm. How are plugins on Firefox safer?
by DrtyDogg January 27, 2009 3:43 AM PST
ieaddons.com, check it out some time. Several of the addons have been available since IE6.

The only virus you can get from Active X is the one you allow, as by default you are prompted to install any Active X component. And without changing a security setting you cannot install any unsigned Active X components.
by Dalkorian January 27, 2009 11:45 AM PST
You forgot the big one, it's still IE. The first security move I make to any winblows install is to try to completely hide IE from the user after installing FF. (Editors' note: Offensive content removed.)
by goodspeed8701 January 26, 2009 2:20 PM PST
I use it and I love it. till ff and chrome can do more than ie i will stick to IE. My own view but if you dont like it... Simply KILL YOUR SELF.
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by danielgrant612 January 26, 2009 3:22 PM PST
calm down, killer... lol
by MafiaPenguin January 26, 2009 3:57 PM PST
OMG why tell 3/4 of the world to kill themselves???
by Someone-else January 26, 2009 4:44 PM PST
"till ff and chrome can do more than ie i will stick to IE"
Tell me ONE thing IE does that FF(and extensions) doesn't(besides getting viruses).
by DarkPGR January 26, 2009 5:44 PM PST
you missed Opera, it can do a lot more than Internet Explorer... Chrome is very "basic", and Firefox does nothing without additional unsafe downloads... but there are features like Opera Link, Opera Mail, Speed Dial, Mouse Gestures, Real multi-web interface, Tabbed browsing, to name a few, that has been on Opera since day 1... and don't forget standards support, wich is best in both Opera and Safari
by spacydog January 27, 2009 9:37 AM PST
Ewww, Opera. Nah, seriously folks, use whatever browser is good for you and stop ragging on everyone else for not using the same browser. Choice is good.
by tmt345 January 26, 2009 2:21 PM PST
I hope they greatly improved on speed, IE over the years has turned into a hog. They also need to make it actually SECURE, every time I use IE I am scared of getting a virus. If I were Microsoft I would cut support of Windows XP for IE 8, its time to move on with Windows 7 and get people to realize Windows XP is almost a decade old...
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by t8 January 26, 2009 2:37 PM PST
The problem is that XP maybe old, but it is a better OS than Vista and Windows 7 hasn't been released.
by DarkPGR January 26, 2009 5:46 PM PST
yeah, XP support must be dropped so the whole "foundations" can be used and taken advantage of... but IE8 will have XP support, and is already too late to drop it... and you just think you are unsafe, while most of the time is true, you are just as vulnerable while surfing on Chrome or Firefox... for actual safety there's Opera (check Secunia advisories if you don't believe me)
by timster799 January 26, 2009 3:14 PM PST
And will Netflix streaming work on the nearly final IE8?? If no, this story is still not news-worthy.
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by MafiaPenguin January 26, 2009 3:58 PM PST
I used the beta for a few weeks, and I have Netflix, so I can tell you, it works just as well as Netflix in IE7.
by perry-crann January 26, 2009 3:25 PM PST
I will be surprised if there is anything innovate in there. They are just playing catchup.
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by milleronic January 26, 2009 3:29 PM PST
All well and good with the inane and useless comments (get a life y'all, really), but is IE8 CSS and W3C compliant? Yet? Finally?? That's all I ask..... I imagine all the crazy workarounds to deal with for this one...
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by DarkPGR January 26, 2009 5:48 PM PST
No, it isn't, they said they didn't care as much about that for IE8 (maybe in IE9, but not in IE8)... for standards compilance you still only have 2 options: Opera and Safari...
by Dalkorian January 27, 2009 11:52 AM PST
They keep saying they're working on standards compliance, but isn't it interesting how they are the only browser that continuously fails dreadfully at that?

IE will never be standards compliant in any way, it's not compatible with M$'s business strategy (beat the slaves into submission, force them to continue down their dark path with vendor lock-in and PROFIT!)
by hvle January 26, 2009 4:13 PM PST
Ok, for the poor little sorry sympathetic IE lovers who wait for I.E 8 to use its new features: "You can download a stable version of IE.8 right now. It called FireFox 3 and Safari 2. Just googling them.
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by DarkPGR January 26, 2009 5:49 PM PST
yeah, just as stable as IE, you are right, altough Firefox still can't download big files without corrupting them... Safari for Windows, on the other hand, isn't the safest browser on the plattform, but is stable and has Standards Support almost as good as Opera...
by random truth January 26, 2009 6:12 PM PST
@DarkPGR try the webkit browser its basically open source safari, It works on windows and mac and has better standard support than both opera and safari, it passes all the acid tests 100% etc.
by slecalvez January 26, 2009 5:28 PM PST
I really like accelerators in IE8, this is a feature not present in none of the other browsers... IE 8 is actually good. It might not be blazing fast as chrome but it offers other things. It's a trade off I'm willing to make...
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by Dalkorian January 27, 2009 11:53 AM PST
ROFLMAO!
by dburr13 January 26, 2009 9:44 PM PST
IE8 is more annoying than ever...It apparently has decided that Java is hostile and won't allow the plugin to be installed to "loop" NWS radar...

It's a better looking browser than before...But that's about all i can say so far...

If IE8 ends up being better than Firefox i would switch in an instant...But right now it is nowhere close.
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by HeavyJim January 27, 2009 12:33 AM PST
Give it an adblock , thats all I ask for, and I will use it exclusively.
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by therealgeeves January 27, 2009 6:33 AM PST
I downloaded and installed IE8. To my surprise the install process deleted my dock icons, including firefox.
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