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January 6, 2009 4:46 PM PST

New year, new MP3 tags

by Peter Butler
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Mp3tag

Mp3tag makes it simple to edit batches of MP3 files.

According to a recent New York Times article, 80 percent of people who make New Year's resolutions abandon them before Valentine's Day. But we can all beat the odds, right?

This year, I'm hoping to make some sense of my digital music collection. I'm a big fan of the audio-tracking site Last.fm (my username is "field_day" if you want to friend me), but I'll often get an error when trying to "scrobble" a song because my ID3 information is missing or erroneous.

ID3 is a metadata format within MP3 files that can store a song's title, artist, album, track number, genre, year, and other useful data. And editing that info song by song in iTunes, Winamp, MediaMonkey, or other music players can be a real pain in the butt.

Enter the batch taggers. These software programs make it much easier to edit multiple MP3 files at once. One of the most popular, Mp3tag, was a Featured Freeware selection back in August 2008, and TagScanner is another top-rated and popular freeware option. Among the shareware solutions, TagTuner offers a full 30-day trial and includes one unique and critical feature: the ability to roll back any batch changes.

Will 2009 be the year I finally get my MP3 act together? I certainly hope so. If you have any expert advice on organizing digital music or cleaning up my ID3 tags, tell me about it in the comments.

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by baxter1622 January 6, 2009 6:44 PM PST
I just went to suggest MP3 Tag Tools v1.2. I find this the easiest for renaming entire albums or individual files.
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by nadir1915 January 6, 2009 9:07 PM PST
I wrote a script in php for cleaning up id3 tags. The script basically gets id3 tags from an mp3 and stores them in a mysql database. It then corrects the tags by looking up several music websites. The script is available free at http://www.phpclasses.org/browse/package/4621.html.
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by borateen January 6, 2009 9:10 PM PST
I like MediaMonkey's 'Auto Tag from Web' function which searches Amazon to finds track names, album art, year, etc. It is customizable for setting your own search criteria and choosing which tags you want to apply. 'Batch Art Finder' and 'Genre Finder' are also both good add-ons for MediaMonkey.
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by rvonder January 6, 2009 9:16 PM PST
I use MediaMonkey (MM) to maintain and tag a very large MP3 library, and it does not require doing this on a "song by song" basis as you stated. Although MM makes it very easy to edit tags on individual tracks if desired, it also provides a 'Tag from Amazon' feature: You simply select all the tracks from a given album, click 'Tag from Amazon', and MM uses the information from all of those tracks to create a list of the best album matches including track numbers, song & album titles, album & track artists, year, publisher, genre, and even album art and descriptive liner notes. After selecting the right album, just click the 'Tag' button and all tags for all of those tracks are updated at once. While there's no automatic solution to tagging multiple tracks that's 100% perfect, the facilities in MM come pretty close most of the time. In addition to the auto-tagging features, there are also tools for manipulating multiple tags (correcting capitalization of titles, artists, album name, etc.; swapping album and song title fields; mass-editing of tags via a common string pattern; and so forth). Between all of these capabilities, I'm very seldom forced to manually edit tags for individual tracks.

Another well-respected tooi for tag management to add to your list is Softpointer's "Tag & Rename", which offers automated mass-tagging.features eerily similar to those of MM but with even more flexibility. Although it's not freeware, there is a 30-day trial period and a full license costs only $30. If you're maintaining tags for a large collection, the product quickly justifies the small investment -- especially if you're using something other than MM to catalog and play your collection.

Usual disclaimers apply - I have no connection with either product other than as a satisfied user.

Rob
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by digitaldirections January 6, 2009 10:14 PM PST
Do yourself a favour and check out Musicbrainz.org. They have a free tagger (Picard v0.11) available for download. It uses AcousticFingerprints (PUIDs) to analyse your audio tracks and then automatically looks up the extensive database to retrieve the correct tracks - including album art. The database is heaps better than freedb (too many home-brew albums or albums with inaccurate data) or amazon (musicbrainz has more data is much cleaner). There's also an enormous user community, of which you can join, and contribute back to the community by helping to maintain the integrity of the data. Last.fm used musicbrainz data, as do plenty of other sites.
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by Zexcrememator January 7, 2009 12:04 AM PST
I second that. Musicbrainz is very easy to handle and a great piece of software. Absolutely recommendable :)
by fjohnson2 January 7, 2009 8:48 AM PST
I also like musicbrainz, but I would recommend using it with Jaikoz http://www.jthink.net/jaikoz instead of Picard it does alot more including looking up stuff from discogs and gives you more control.
by mrduane January 7, 2009 10:32 AM PST
agreed. i tried the apps you mention above & still find musicbrainz *much* more useful. vast, accurate library of tracks, and more automated than the other apps. i personally use musicIP to build the fingerprints that it uses to id tracks. together, they get the job done.
by matth88 January 6, 2009 10:18 PM PST
The biggest thing I've observed is that when people combine music players with taggers it always seems to make a mess -- I just want to play my songs for crying out loud! I've used several of these apps for tagging and they've all got their pluses and minuses -- but I'd never use them as my main music player -- my favorite for that is QuuxPlayer (www.quuxplayer.com) which is nice because you can just dump your files into it and it makes it really easy to find and play what you're looking for.
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by thefenman January 6, 2009 11:05 PM PST
My main complaint about mp3 tags (and wma come to that) is the very poor recognition the standard list of genres gives to classical music, it hardly exists. I have found, however, that it is possible to type in one's own genre though the system doesn't remember any new entries. Mind you, just to be awkward, I use use "genre" to enter the name of the composer with maybe a sub-category, eg Brahms Concertos.
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by rlof24 January 6, 2009 11:54 PM PST
I have tried all of the programs listed above and unless you want to manually tag mp3's or have incomprehensible useless information none of them work.
My song collection currently stands at 43,000+. Most of them are tagged correctly.
There are, however, hundreds of songs that are not tagged correctly.
The ONLY program that I have ever seen that would find and tag unknown tracks correctly was the old MusicMatch Super Tagging.
Mediamonkey, MusicBrainz, Last.fm etc. are ok for some things but useless for automatic tagging.
CNET advertises a "new" version of MusicMatch. Do not be fooled. It is a ripoff. It really is just a player with none of the tagging features of the old program.
I cannot understand why someone has not bought or incorporated the old Super Tagging feature.
I would gladly pay for it.
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by rlof24 January 7, 2009 12:09 AM PST
I have just tried Softpointer's "Tag & Rename", and QuuxPlayer.
Once again, both useless.
by ac_diana January 7, 2009 12:00 AM PST
Try Tag&Rename, it is the best for all I have tested.
http://www.softpointer.com/tr.htm
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by rlof24 January 7, 2009 12:10 AM PST
Tag & Rename does not so Super Tagging.
If I wanted to tag manually I would just do it without cluttering up my machine any more than it already is.
by Kre8te January 7, 2009 2:48 AM PST
I find itunes pretty easy to tag music. There are loads of settings and it's so simplistic and well laid out. If you want to edit files as a batch, you do the amazingly simple task of highlighting the batch of files and selecting "Get Info" then input Album, year and other information.
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by smallseb January 7, 2009 3:03 AM PST
If you're using winamp, there is all that you need included.
Since the last version there is an autotagger really usefull and effective!
I've tryed Mediamonkey, the Gophather and Mp3tag still need some time to do it.

So in Winamp, either in MediaLibrary and playlist, select the files you want to tag (all of them if you have some time) and right clik on one of them, then "send to" and "autotag".
It use CDDB tag library to make it work.
I don't spend any more second to tag thoeses!
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by jschlesinger January 7, 2009 4:03 AM PST
You don't have to use the genre to tag the composer - the ID3v2 text frames include a tag for the composer. If you use Media Jukebox (free download) you can enter all the extended tags on a track or album basis. I use the composer tag for the composer, the conductor tag for the conductor, the band tag for the orchestra and the artist tag for the choir, soloist or other featured artist. The list of text frames in ID3v2 is below. This include composer, lyricist (useful for operas), band and conductor:
# Album/Movie/Show title
# BPM (beats per minute)
# Composer
# Content type
# Copyright message
# Date of recording
# Playlist delay
# Encoded by
# Lyricist/Text writer
# File type
# Time of recording
# Content group description
# Title/songname/content description
# Subtitle/Description refinement
# Initial key
# Language(s) used in the audio
# Length
# Media type of audio original
# Original album/movie/show title
# Original filename
# Original lyricist(s)/text writer(s)
# Original artist(s)/performer(s)
# Original release year
# File owner/licensee
# Lead performer(s)/Soloist(s)
# Band/orchestra/accompaniment
# Conductor/performer refinement
# Interpreted, remixed, or otherwise modified by
# Part of a set
# Publisher
# Track number/Position in set
# Recording dates
# Internet radio station name
# Internet radio station owner
# Size
# ISRC (international standard recording code)
# Software/Hardware and settings used for encoding
# Year of the recording
# User defined text information frame
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by jschlesinger January 7, 2009 4:07 AM PST
I forgot to add that Squeezebox (which I use with Logitech duet boxes to give me whole house audio) supports the composer tag very well. It effectively adds the composer to the artist lookup.
by Johnny Kemp January 7, 2009 4:04 AM PST
How can I transfer my Cassette Tapes on to MP3 ?
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by courvilp January 7, 2009 8:40 AM PST
this is what I have use for mine, and it did the job
http://www.adstech.com/products/RDX-150/intro/RDX-150_intro1.asp?pid=RDX-150
by grelaz January 7, 2009 4:04 AM PST
I have to say most of my songs are already tagged and Itunes makes it really easy to amend any tags. My question is what about my 1000's of photos? I don't want to use picassa or some proprietary format. What is the equivalent of ID3 tags for photos?

I like using ACDsee but don't want to use a database that is not open standard. Then my movie collection, would be the next obvious task. Imagine getting data from IMDB.com and having your movies cataloged by actor or location setting....ahh!
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by GhostMale66 January 8, 2009 12:52 AM PST
For possibly the ultimate best DVD catalog program, try looking at DVDProfiler. www.invelos.com I hightly doubt you will find anything better for cataloging your DVD collection.
by Johnny Kemp January 7, 2009 4:07 AM PST
I would like to record my cassette tapes onto MP3 what would be the best programme as I am unable to do this on windows Media sincerely Johnny Kemp
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by BerT6801 January 7, 2009 4:32 AM PST
I just had to chime in on this one.... first post i do believe. I have fought this problem long ago and won... I use Mp3 Tag Studio3(freeware) for all my batch editing....comes in real handy with its right click shell extensions for the quick jobs...but its interface still makes you do most things one at a time. To fill in the gap I use Tag&Rename,,,it has a wonderful f10 key for batch editing multiple files. Also makes it real easy to search and add cover art from within the batch editing, Between the two all my massive mp3 collection is tagged correct. Any individual songs, I just hit play and click the title in winamp for easy modification. Took months of software trials to figure this out though. I still encounter a small bug in Mp3 Tag Studio that likes to add a "T" to the front of all songs, after a while of trials I found that if you clear the id3v2 tags and write them again it fixes itself.
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by WeirDave January 7, 2009 4:59 AM PST
I use a Russian Based program called TagScanner ( http://www.xdlab.ru/en/index.htm ) It is on a donation use basis and although it took me several months of trying to figure out how to make it happen I did donate to him. It was difficult because he uses a system called webmoney which is 1000 time more difficult than paypal. Anyway the program has many cool features and he adds more on about a monthly basis. Check it out.
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by 3kpc2 January 7, 2009 5:47 AM PST
I am surprised that nobody has mentioned Helium Music Manager. I have been using it for years and it has been getting better and better with regular updates. I have a collection of mostly flac music files that is about 140 GBs. Helium works very well for me and I would recommend everyone check it out. I've tried other taggers and in my opinion none even come close.
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by colin.deguire January 7, 2009 9:31 AM PST
I wrote a script that manages my tags. The script is written using JavaScript, runs in Windows Scripting Host (WSH), and uses the iTunes SDK to loop through all existing songs in my library and update the tags based on the file and folder name. This is a good solution for anyone who likes to tinker with scripts.

I also used Mp3tag once upon a time. I thought it was pretty awesome, and ran much faster than the script I use. But there were some fine-tunings that I wanted to do and couldn't figure it out how to do it with the software. So I stick with my script.
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by §odaPlex January 7, 2009 11:42 AM PST
I evoid Auto-Tag software and stuff like that I try to organize as I buy CD's... I personally use Wikipedia to search album and artist and suits me perfect. I use Winamp to write the tags... that way they'll appear that way in any software or Mp3 player... and iTunes for Album Art.
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by fjohnson2 January 8, 2009 5:37 AM PST
Gosh have you got alot of time on your hands , dounds like an awfully slow way of doing things
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