December 15, 2008 3:00 AM PST

Ad-Aware gets an antivirus cousin

by Jessica Dolcourt
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Updated December 17 at 9:00 a.m. PST with a comment from Lavasoft.

Lavasoft on Monday unveiled a new antivirus application it hopes will do as well as its runaway hit Ad-Aware.

The encore, Lavasoft Anti-Virus Helix, is Lavasoft's first full-fledged antivirus application. The problem is, it's nearly identical to one that already exists: Avira AntiVir.

A Lavasoft vice president told CNET in an e-mail:

Yes, we do have a technology partnership with Avira for the anti-virus engine technology, as our company expertise is in anti-spyware. We have customers who have been asking us for years to release a stand-alone anti-virus, because they do not want to be forced into using other security applications built into a suite that may not meet the standards they require...Lavasoft's contribution to the stand-alone anti-virus is a trusted brand in security software, particularly as we were the first to ever launch a commercial anti-spyware product.

Furthermore, Lavasoft admits to being opaque about their "partnership" except "when asked directly."

This is disingenuous, especially for a respected company that claims to deliver on a customer promise. It would be one thing if Lavasoft borrowed Avira's antivirus engine to complement its own antispyware program. It is another to thinly veil a recognized, proprietary product under a new color scheme and stamp it your own.

Performance

Lavasoft Anti-Virus Helix shares Avira AntiVir's interface, down to malware blockers, on-the-fly detection, a scanner, malware removal, and protection from e-mail viruses and Web threats. It offers full system scanning and, in addition, lets you pick from preset scans or create a profile to scan a smaller portion of your PC, for instance, just your "C" drive.

Lavasoft Anti-Virus Helix

Like Avira AntiVir, Anti-Virus Helix scans fairly quickly and lets you get hands-on with the results.

(Credit: CNET)

Just like Avira AntiVir, Lavasoft's new antivirus app performed well in our tests. It beeped when encountering a suspicious file and wouldn't budge until we ignored, deleted, or quarantined it. While a good practice, the need to babysit the scan could undo the benefit of any overnight scans you schedule.

Lavasoft Anti-Virus Helix lets you do any number of things with the data, including print, save, and send reports. However, it could use an internal browser to look up information online about discovered threats.

Other extras can be found in the app's configuration menu. When you elect to enter expert mode, you'll be able to turn on rootkit scanning, scan outgoing e-mail messages, and specify MIME types to block (simplistically, any area of an e-mail where malware can hitch a ride). We appreciate being able to add suspicious files from the quarantine interface.

The fact that you have to manually discover and add STMP e-mail and specific MIME details points to one of the app's biggest problems. Compared to Ad-Aware and others in Lavasoft's family, the dowdy Anti-Virus Helix is much less user-friendly in visual appeal, navigation, and organization. In fact, it bucks the trend most publishers embrace to favor icons over text lines in order to configure and start protections.

That's little concern for intermediate and advanced users who thrive on file trees and won't mind consulting the program's thorough help file when the tool tips aren't quite explanatory enough. Casual users who prefer to set it and forget it may wonder why Ad-Aware is so simple to schedule and run but Anti-Virus Helix takes more effort. They may also wonder why this application bundle was marketed under a new name in the first place.

Jessica Dolcourt reviews the latest and greatest smartphone apps, in addition to a healthy dose of Windows software. E-mail Jessica and follow her on Twitter.
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by James_Park December 15, 2008 3:10 AM PST
It's Aria AntiVir, Lavasoft bundle it.
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by eli_ancheta December 15, 2008 3:40 AM PST
what the hell?? looks like avira interface with a bland color. haha
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by James_Park December 15, 2008 4:13 AM PST
Yes, it's Aira. Ad Aware bundle it, they called it rebrand, just like OEM.
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by eli_ancheta December 15, 2008 4:16 AM PST
oh, thanks my man
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by Rama Yudhistira December 15, 2008 7:04 AM PST
The Gui is Avira's...
Is it better than AntiVir?
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by Ilgaz December 15, 2008 7:05 AM PST
A very good idea, not re-inventing the wheel. Avira is an awesome antivirus which just lacks some kind of GUI touch and additional language support.
With using that engine, Ad-Aware made the clever choice. You can't turn your back on expertise and development of 2 decades.
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by Michichael December 15, 2008 9:25 AM PST
So the worst Spyware scanner in the market just ninja'd a somewhat reputable antivirus? Still doesn't make their software suck any less.
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by BigGuns149 December 15, 2008 12:30 PM PST
I don't know if I would call it the worst spyware scanner, but I think their scanner is far overrated. Historically I have found that Ad-aware almost never finds anything except cookies, which relative to real spyware really aren't very scary.

That being said unlike anti-virus software I find that with spyware having a second opinion or two is a lot more important because AFAIK no application seems to be able to catch >90% of the stuff in the wild. I have seen some machines where you need multiple rounds of different anti-spyware applications to be somewhat confident that you have even gotten rid of most of it nevermind all of it.
by Ilgaz December 16, 2008 4:29 AM PST
What makes it the "worst" spyware scanner? It invented the anti spyware category itself right after Steve Gibson's tiny tool.
by talker29 December 16, 2008 11:49 AM PST
I agree, I run Ad-aware, spybot , and malwarebytes regularly. I always run ad-aware first, and it has never caught a single thing, then I run the other two and they both usually pick up a couple legitimate pieces of spyware.

If they are so bad at spyware, I wouldn't have any confidence in them updating their virus definition often enough to catch anything either.
by markdauvid December 15, 2008 5:40 PM PST
i tried avira and yes unlike most all antivirus software avira required a response for every alleged virus and if you didn't respond it locked up the scan. my last scan before i removed avira was around 10 hours and just under 60% COMPLETE. my life does not revolve around baby sitting a virus scan. i am sorry avira you did look good at first but this make a decision everytime thing or your scan will finish in the next century really did not make my day. most of those alleged viruses were in microsoft software. who would have thought microsoft software could have viruses or did avira just decide they were. needless to say i have heard too many times people have removed files that are critical to the software and if they are removed boom goes the software.
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by Ilgaz December 16, 2008 4:31 AM PST
Well that was what I talk about. If they mixed Avira _engine_ with a good and non nagging GUI of theirs, it was a right decision.
Avira is indeed too much nagging. Even asking to apply updates or not. Yes, they coded new malwares, update without asking for God's sake!
by HeyUGuys December 16, 2008 12:39 PM PST
agreed that Avira requires more User-input than other anti-virus out there, but when scanning the computer, I guess someone didn't get the memo that you can go to Config -> Check Expert Mode -> Scan -> Action -> Automatic -> (set primary and secondary actions) so you don't have to babysit Avira all day.
In addition, you must be running other programs that take up resources while scanning with Avira or have a slow computer

For me, 2,000,000+ files, 4,500+ archives, 3,500+ directories a bit above 4 hours, 30 minutes on a Core 2 Duo at 2.2 Ghz with 3 HDD
by HeyUGuys December 16, 2008 12:43 PM PST
Also, if scanning is too slow and Avira naggs a lot about updates, you can always buy Norton 360.
Norton 360 has a much easier GUI to navigate and does everything by itself. Therefore, you don't have to do anything but sit back and relax.
by elidiota3512 December 16, 2008 5:29 PM PST
I still don't get why Ad-Aware is so popular. SUPERAntiSpyware has done a lot more for me when it comes to detecting and dealing with spyware. And Avira Antivir is good, but I'd still choose Avast over it any day of the week.
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by drummer51689 December 17, 2008 5:00 PM PST
Just stick with AVG 8.0 Free and you will be 100% protected!!! :)
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by taison91 December 18, 2008 2:42 PM PST
i have used ad-aware ever since it came out , and i have used others, such as spy bot search & destroy e.t.c. and ad aware is as good as they come, my computer has been under attack by a hacker since 1999 , i have had trojan horses slipped into my computer and all , so anyone that says ad aware doesnt work obviousy doesnt know what they are talking about! and i think that it is wonderful that someone thinks enough about their fellow computer users to create a program that will in the long run keep us all safe. i wish i could shake the persons hand that created the programs FOR FREE THAT CAN KEEP THE PEOPLE SAFE from malicious users , and also the makers of zone alarm also a free firewall need a good handshake also it is so nice that people care enough to help people for freee with the internet being such a jungle out there .
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by kai7070 December 18, 2008 6:04 PM PST
After seeing this hilariously deadpan video I much prefer ESET... http://www.viddler.com/explore/SantaFraud1/videos/2/

their site is pretty damn funny as well... www.santafraud.com
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by bilbot December 19, 2008 5:48 PM PST
avg bites the big one i recently downloaded a free root kit i had this on my computer for about a month one day out of nowhere i start getting messages my computer is infected with a virus and the pop ups tried to get me to go to there web site then they scanned my computer and told me i had to buy the anti virus software to take care of the problems I deleted the root kit and had my macafee antivirus software scan my computer and it found a generic false warning trojan wich it took care of problem solved if this is the kind of bull@#$% this company uses to try and force you to buy there product they can shove them up there butt.
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