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October 13, 2008 4:59 PM PDT

OpenOffice 3: Faster, uninspired interface

by Seth Rosenblatt
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Demand for OpenOffice.org 3 has been so high on its first day of out of beta that the official Web site crashed.

In the meantime, users can also download it for Windows and Mac from Download.com, and there are a couple of torrents being shared as well on the usual big-name trackers.

OpenOffice's redesigned landing page.

(Credit: CNET Networks)

After using OpenOffice's MS Word analog, Writer, all day, I can confirm that this update is worth it for the improvement in response and load times, if nothing else. The installation is still enormous, with an installer about 130MB for Windows users and 160MB for Mac, but the installation process is smoother. From start to finish, it clocked in at around 5 minutes, significantly faster than installing OpenOffice 2. People who use OpenOffice as their primary productivity suite should take advantage of the OpenOffice Quickstarter, which noticeably accelerates program launch times and has been made even faster in version 3.

Mac users will also be pleased to see that they no longer need to grab a separate installation of X11--the new installer will run natively on OS X, and Windows Vista users should encounter fewer problems than before.

Many of the new features are only noticeable depending on how much of the OpenOffice suite you use. If you're a rebel and you use it in your work environment when everybody else is still on Microsoft Office, the compatibility with Office 2007/2008 file formats is hard to ignore. Finally getting native support for DOCX and XLSX, for example, is long overdue. If my tests jumping back and forth between XLSX and XLS files were any indication, though, the formats are now seamlessly integrated. However, OpenOffice can not yet save files in the new MS Office format.

Upgrades to OpenDocument Format 1.2 were glitch-free.

Other improvements to the two most-used programs in OpenOffice include multiple page viewing, improved notes and commenting, and improved PDF creation and importation in Writer, and a Solver feature and spreadsheet sharing in Calc. As you can tell, though, most of these changes bring OpenOffice up to the new standard of MS Office. Besides the OpenDocument Format support, there's little here that you can't get in Office. Of course, the benefit of OpenOffice being freeware can't be understated.

The new Start Center should appeal only to users who like having a landing page or only want to have one link on their desktop. It opens up a slightly redesigned window that highlights all of the OpenOffice tools with big icons. I find the Quickstarter to be a more effective and less intrusive way to do the same thing. Unfortunately, the interface within each program in the suite has gone largely unchanged. It looks fine when compared with MS Office 2003, but not so much when up against the Office 2007/2008.

One useful change involving the landing page is that it now shows up whenever you close a document but don't exit the program. This streamlines the work flow when jumping between applications, as well as giving you something to look at besides a big gray expanse of nothingness.

Overall, though, the interface isn't detrimental to using OpenOffice--it's just not a selling point. If it's the features that you use the suite for, then there's no reason not to upgrade.

Seth peers into the deep, dark corners of software so that you don't have to. He has yet to suffer a single nightmare about OS/2. You can follow him on Twitter.
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by riteshsharma1979 October 13, 2008 6:36 PM PDT
cool hai
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by tuneslover October 13, 2008 11:31 PM PDT
good software as free & open source. But looking so odd & very poor compared with Microsoft Office.
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by cary1 October 14, 2008 7:38 AM PDT
Can it do mail merge?
Can it do data analysis operations like ANOVA, T-test etc?
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by cary1 October 14, 2008 7:49 AM PDT
Can it do mail merge?
Can it do data analysis operations like ANOVA, T-test etc?
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by n25philly October 14, 2008 9:46 AM PDT
sound like minor updates to a bad product. Maybe by version 20 it will be as good at other free office programs let alone office
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by strobedumas October 15, 2008 5:22 AM PDT
Hi n25philly,
Maybe by version 20 MS Office will no be totally unaffordable and so big that it would take 20 disks and three hours to install and maybe you would need a Microsoft representative to verify that you are the genuine owner of your windows machine. And finally maybe by that time all your personal data will be with Microsoft corporation; gleaned over the years through your MS files.
by zupcsics October 14, 2008 7:41 PM PDT
Let me see if I've got this right - the solution to huge, slow loading, poorly architected (monolthic) software, is to add yet another 'helper' process running (or at least) all the time, consuming memory and system resources to systems which (for laptops in particular) already suffer from WAY too many 'helper' processes...

Doesn't anyone think about these ideas??? What about fixing the inherent problem(s): 1) the SW is simply too large and slow loading; and 2) Is slow to open data files, particularlthose that it has to translate from another format.

Seriously, a great idea, and a lot of hard work has gone into it, but it seems to me significantly hobbled by a fundamentally poor architecture/implementation decisions. It's a real shame as a well implemented product couuld be _hugely_ popular, and help loosen the MS monopoly (yes, monopoly) on applications (due to the use of proprietary data formats).

What does the average end user care? Easy - OO is still dog slow, and a huge memroy & resource hog. If you want to make it load faster, you can throw still more memory and system resources at it. (keep Quickstarter loaded always). Not much of an improvement, imho...
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by JackHS October 14, 2008 9:50 PM PDT
Sour grapes!
Stop whinging, see if you can do better.
JHS
by LIBNY PINEDA G October 14, 2008 8:53 PM PDT
I just want to try it and would like to know the difference from the traditional Microsoft Word. Thanks.
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by chrisc_w October 15, 2008 2:13 AM PDT
Open Office writer does not irreversibly corrupt your documents if you have its smarts on like word tends to and it better at handling embedded objects. The user interface is much the same as all other office suites including MS office. Writer is a bit slow and maybe a resource hog but compared to Word it it lightweight and fast.

It does not support email any better that MS Office although the Windows version does not default to a rubbish mail client like MS Office does. I've not personally used the Linux mail client much as like most people I use Pegasus both at home and at work and like to keep all my mail together for reference and ease of backup.
by JackHS October 14, 2008 9:46 PM PDT
Excellent. Love the improvements, especially being faster.

Bouquets to the Author/s.

Question: Is it possible to use an alternative language, e.i. German, with a dictionary and perhaps a Thesaurus?

Congratulations, The gratis Open Office is a sparkling gift to the community at large, by the great people who wrote it.
JackHS
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by rjhintz October 15, 2008 2:52 PM PDT
Did you try the German language version available from http://download.openoffice.org/? Look also for the bittorrent version for a faster download, if you have a bittorrent client.
by killmemarkstein October 14, 2008 10:12 PM PDT
its faster than the older one!! great job.. new features too... TNX
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by BrianZachary October 14, 2008 11:36 PM PDT
Do I need to uninstall a previous version before upgrading to the new one?

Don't listen to those naysayers who can afford Microsoft's expensive crap. If one can afford to buy the expensive stuff and they are happy and satisfied with it, why would they even attempt to try a free alternative?

I haven't used OpenOffice for very long myself, but I'm glad to have it on my computer for when I do need it. I'm finding out all kinds of things I can do with OpenOffice that I never even thought of doing before or had the need to, but it's nice to know I have the option.

If the developers of OpenOffice read this, I want to say thank you for a great product and especially for making it free for those of us who can't just go out and pay Microsoft thousands of dollars for each of their products. Yes, that's an exaggeration, but not by much. Also, thank you to CNET and Download.com for making OpenOffice available for download and for everything else you do.

Keep up the excellent work.
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by rjhintz October 15, 2008 2:53 PM PDT
The 3.0.0 install process removes the previous installation.
by K.Srinivasaqn October 15, 2008 9:06 PM PDT
Since the download weight is the same u can better uninstall and install the new version,as i did it.
I humbly agree with u more than 100%.Yes, my experience is so.For years long i was using MS only,thinking nothing better can be had and nothing can excel MS. But this conception proved false when I casually tried this Free but superb
Open Office. Consequently I removed MS from my PC and continuing this excellent SW; in my,though a very ordinary user's experience, I found many many features are so excellent that working with this SW brings some unique joy to the mind,which MS could not afford notwithstanding its costliness
God bless those hands and heads that brought this grand and excellent FREEWARE to the PC-WORLDS
KARA
by birdie27 October 15, 2008 1:07 AM PDT
I converted my ppt presentations to the new open office format, and now I cannot play the music recordings!!. Nor can I restore original version.!! What a waste of valuable time.
Any suggestions?
Gerald
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by 555pdr October 15, 2008 1:29 AM PDT
Hi. I have a number of heavyweight VBA applications that use automation to work with MS Excel, Powerpoint, Word & Outlook. Does OpenOffice support VBA? If not, does anyone know of any other Office type products that do? (This is particulary important now that VBA support has been dropped from Office 2008).
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by hnielsenatcbs October 16, 2008 7:50 AM PDT
Try the OpenOffice branch called Go-OO (http://go-oo.org/). I haven't tried it myself, but the developers say it offers VBA support. Good luck.
by jserra16 October 15, 2008 1:39 AM PDT
I liked to know if the OpenOffice is only in English or You have the version in Portuguese?

Jantpserra@netcabo.pt

Thanks

Jose Serra
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by Jailton October 15, 2008 8:41 PM PDT
Hi Jose. Yes. There is a version in Portuguese and in Brasileiro . That is, you can choose the kind of Portuguese that you feel comfortable with. From your e-mail address, though, I think Brazilian Portuguese is not what you want but your kind of Portuguese is there too. You will need to go to their website: http://download.openoffice.org/other.html#en-US
From there just click the language you want.
by tvp16789 October 15, 2008 2:17 AM PDT
register
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by eddydavik October 15, 2008 4:55 AM PDT
Mac version no longer requires X11 support.
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by Sinocelt October 15, 2008 6:40 AM PDT
When I registered my copy of OOo, I was asked to fill a survey, which I did. However, I've my doubt in regards to its usefulness, since it never allows you to explain why you checked A rather than B. So for instance, when I was asked if I intended to use Writer, I sadly answered no; but nowhere could I provide a reason, and isn't it what really matters?

I'll do that here, hopping that maybe one of the developers will read me -- and yes, all I'm going to mention has already been entered in the official feature request pages, and in one case I've casted my vote, only it's probably a little difficult for a developer browsing though all those pages to separate the "I'd like that" features from the "without it, I can't really use this otherwise wonderful program" features.

To shed some light on my circumstances: I work as an Assistant Professor; I'm also a writer and a translator. So obviously, a word processor is my main tool of trade. I write in French and in English, and while Writer is fine for the latter, it fails with the former.

French punctuation requires an unbreakable space to be inserted before a high/double punctuation mark (? ; : !) and while Microsoft Word does it automatically, Writer still does not (my heart full of hope, I've tested several versions of Writer over the years). To most of you, it'll certainly seem but a detail, yet it makes a document unpublishable as is, just like inserting a space before each period in English would produce a faulty document.

This omission surprises me all the more that, on the other hand, Writer does correct quotation marks automatically when you select the French language, replacing the American quotation marks by French ones, unbreakable space included. But here, another problem occurs: an unbreakable space in Writer is symbolized by a gray square. It means that a French document would be littered with gray squares, and be a royal pain to (proof)read on the screen.

Let me voice (yet) another complaint, since grumbling is a specialty of my countrymen: both the search function and the thesaurus appear as floating windows. Now, Microsoft Word also uses a floating window for its search function, and so does Internet Explorer... which is the main reason why, years ago, I switched to Firefox. Firefox has its search box as a bar on the bottom; it works great (and I can't thank Mozilla enough for that, since a lot of my work has to do with hunting for precise pieces of information). Floating windows that cover the text you are working on, or are simply trying to read, are just not practical.

Now, Microsoft Word got its thesaurus right (no, not everything that Microsoft does is horrible, Vista notwithstanding): it appears on the side of the screen (which is too large for a document anyway, on all but the smallest netbooks) and stays there, if you don't close it; I usually leave it open myself. In Writer, though, not only does the thesaurus appear in a floating window, but you cannot leave this floating window open to work on your main text: you have to close it and reopen it each time you want to check a word, which in my trade(s) is very, very often: my experience is that both writers and translators need the thesaurus much more often than the spell checker.

And, one last thing: a "draft" view would be very nice.

So, anyway, why am I ******** about a free piece of software when, apparently, Microsoft Word satisfies my needs (ribbon notwithstanding)? Well, the fact is, I'm getting very annoyed by Windows, more than by Office. I'd like to switch to Linux, but before I do, I must make sure that I'll have all the tools I need to go on with my work. My needs are relatively simple: while I've used Photoshop and Dreamweaver, I don't need all their power: in all probability, the Gimp and Nvu/KompoZer would satisfy me. In regards to the Internet, why, I'm using Firefox already; I wouldn't notice a difference.

I'm more afraid when it comes to dictionaries: excellent English ones are available for Linux, but the very good French ones only work on Windows or Mac (though maybe Wine would work). And as this post makes it clear, I need a word processor that satisfies some needs which are, for me, both very basic and very important. And so, that's why I've been testing Writer time and again over the years: not because I don't like Microsoft Office (which my university has offered me, so cost isn't an issue) but because, if I could be satisfied with Writer, I could leave Windows behind (certainly for Ubuntu).
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by flying_cucco October 15, 2008 11:29 AM PDT
Control + Space types an non-breaking space.
To get rid of the grey squares, go to Options -> Writer -> Formatting Aids, uncheck "Display of ... Non-breaking spaces".
I hope that mitigates your problems.

kthxby
by Terdog October 15, 2008 8:34 AM PDT
You know what. Ive been using Open Office for a few years now. While its not the quickest, it more than gets the job done. I refuse to pay Microsoft for their over priced versions of Microsoft Office. Even the OEM versions are much too expensive.
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by Terdog October 15, 2008 8:34 AM PDT
You know what. Ive been using Open Office for a few years now. While its not the quickest, it more than gets the job done. I refuse to pay Microsoft for their over priced versions of Microsoft Office. Even the OEM versions are much too expensive.
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by ceo51378 October 15, 2008 8:43 AM PDT
Ok... so it is running faster than previous versions. But I have one major complaint... Where the hell is the ability to save as an M$ 07 format!! Come on!! I am shocked that they couldn't include what I would consider to be the most important feature in this suite to keep it up to par with THE business standard. Like it or not, M$ office is the standard, therefore, whatever file format they decide to come up with will also be the standard. My other gripe is has to do more with aesthetics. It's time to give OOo a real face lift. The office xp look is way outdated.
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by av_14581 October 15, 2008 10:45 PM PDT
I agree with your point on the ability to save in the MS Office 07 format. But MS Office 07 still isn't the format the world uses. It is still Office 2003 or XP. More than half the world is still to change to Vista or MS Office 2007. As for the face lift, the attempt isnt to make an MS Office duplicate, its purely to standardise software which is made easily available to the world. I think you are actually discounting the massive effort the contributors have added.

Not to be offensive, I'm just trying to justify the effort of these humble folk.
by roberto.stoppa October 15, 2008 8:47 AM PDT
I use Lotus Smart Suite Millenium for XP english version. Would like to know if if following files can be read in rel 3.0 english version; *.123 (for speadsheet) - *.APR - *.DBF - *.ADX (for Approach database) - *.LWP for woldprocessing, including macro commands for spreadsheet and database.
Thanks for the attention.
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